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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsName an actor who played a villain in a show so successfully, that it's difficult to see him as
anything else.
For me it's the high sparrow from Game of Thrones. Jonathan Pryce. His face looks too smug to me, no matter what role he plays.
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)Dr. Smith, 'Lost in Space'
My favorite show while growing up in the 1960s.
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)He's the first person I thought of too! This was my favorite show too as a kid Diana. My sister and brother-in-law met Jonathan Harris in an elevator at a sci-fi convention years ago. They said he was very nice and had a great conversation with him. My sister made a comment to him about how she liked how he didn't just play a straight villain but had injected some humor into his part, which made his character more interesting. He was pleased that people had noticed that.
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)That he was the most hated TV villain of my whole childhood--great actor!
I would have told Jonathan Harris how lucky my generation was to
grow up with so many great TV shows--60s were the best!
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)We were leading parallel lives back then!!! I had the biggest crush on Will Robinson too. Was shocked when I found out he was four years older than me!!! My best friend and I even wrote some fan letters to him back then. I still have some photos of him and the Lost in Space group sent to me from the show. Great memories!!!
Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)Doctor Smith's voice was tailored cast. So much so that I was surprised to hear the refined voice of the actual actor when I saw the first episode in English.
The Robot, in Spanish, was hilarious. Peligro, Peligro, Peligro...
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)Commercials and cartoons in other languages are also funny!
Still Blue in PDX
(1,999 posts)Tom Kitten
(7,347 posts)As Cigarette Smoking Man...hard to see him as anything else. Although his appearance has changed as he's gotten older.
Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)They casted him well. There is a local good ole boy that looks just like him and the little hairs on the back of my neck rise whenever I see him.
charlie and algernon
(13,447 posts)He'll always be the Man in Black.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)When I see this actor, I think of "Gone Baby Gone". Really good movie and he was really good in it.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)"Pinhead"
Rhythm
(5,435 posts)He's only of average height, and a slightly-built older man...
...but that ~voice~...
Gives me chills.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Tony Todd, Candyman
Tony Todd as Duke in 'Sushi Girl'
kentauros
(29,414 posts)That was in the Babylon 5 movie "A Call to Arms." So, all I saw was a good actor in a good part. No horror-movie baggage
Leonard Anderson was a Human male who served as an officer in Earthforce during the dawn of the Third Age of mankind. As a Captain, Anderson commanded the EAS Charon during and after the Earth Alliance Civil War, where he remained on the side of Clark's regime. Anderson died aboard the Victory in 2266 protecting Earth from the Drakh controlled Death Cloud.
Biography
An officer in Earthforce by the start of the Earth Alliance Civil War, Anderson was in command of an Omega-class destroyer named EAS Charon as of 2261. During the war, Anderson and his crew had a chance to join John Sheridan's resistance movement, but elected to remain on Clark's side. Years later, after the war had ended, Anderson would lament to Sheridan himself that he and his crew regretted the decision.
In 2266, Anderson began having distrubing dreams of a dead world, and the faces of John Sheridan, Dureena Nafeel, and a Drazi nammed Ni'im. Realizing that the dreams meant something, Anderson ignored orders and made way for Babylon 5, where he met with Sheridan, Nafeel and Elizabeth Lochley. While there, Anderson agreed to assist Sheridan in a plan to stop a Drakh attack of Earth, and took the Charon to the docks where the Excalibur and Victory were located.
In 2267 he took command of the Victory and fought during the Battle of Daltron 7. Captain Anderson died when the Victory was destroyed with all hands by the Drakh controlled Death Cloud in orbit around Earth.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I remember reading that he also taught script writing to high school students during his successful (and ongoing) acting career. But his deep voice and menacing presence made him a natural for villain roles.
His character really gets his comeuppance in 'Sushi Girl,' which is a basically a story of revenge. It's hard to watch because of the torture scenes, but the ending is very satisfying.
The film also features Mark Hamill, from 'Star Wars,' who is unrecognizable in look and voice unless you know it's him. A clip of him:
kentauros
(29,414 posts)So long as I can remember their names, their faces are usually easy to figure out unless there's a lot of makeup.
Now, it is difficult for me to hear the Mark Hamill we all know when he's doing voice-acting work, such as his Joker in the Batman animated series:
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)iirc, a car crash shortly after Star Wars left Hamill with some facial disfigurement. Not extreme, but a noticeable change from his fresh-faced appearance in Star Wars.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)In a way, it helped "grow" his character in the subsequent Star Wars movies, other than normal aging.
Now, the one actor I didn't recognize recently was James Caan. His aging has somehow changed his face so much that I just couldn't figure out who he was. On the other hand, I was recently watching "Life With Father" from 1947, and recognized Martin Milner as one of the sons. He must have been in his mid-teens at the time
Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)to tape the last show, and, by accident, took the video that had my two year old daughter's performance at the Christmas play.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Why not hate your husband instead? It's not like that's abnormal in a marriage
sir pball
(4,742 posts)Oh, you mean just once?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)the evil doll ones definitely take first prize.
Can't explain why, because I can handle movies like The Thing.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Some things I originally passed on I got into later only because of their campiness--like The Big Lebowski and Road House.
One thing I got a kick out of about Chucky was that 'Chucky' actually did interviews. I remember one media interview in which he was quoted as saying he got into movies after being a supermodel because supermodelling was just so unfulfilling.
Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)Well, he certainly meets the qualifications of this thread's subject matter.
Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)They don't take themselves seriously, and throw purposely moronic things in there for a laugh.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)as Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs. I can't see him without thinking of THAT scene. Actually I can't listen to "Stuck in the Middle With You" for the same reason.
Robert Mitchum was always a bad guy because of Cape Fear and Night of the Hunter.
Louise Fletcher will always be Nurse Ratched.
If the first movie I saw Morgan Freeman in was Street Smart, it would have taken a lot for me to get over it.
Dis-Honorable Mention to some pretty boys who played villans really well. I love it when actors play against type.
Matt Dillon in A Kiss Before Dying
Rob Lowe in Bad Influence
James Spader in Less Than Zero
Casey Affleck in The Killer Inside Me
Chris Evans in The Iceman
Tom Kitten
(7,347 posts)For pretty much the same reason, THAT scene! Plus I've seen a few other movies where he played a sadistic killer. I remember starting to watch a movie, I forget which one it was, and he was supposed to be some kind of "good guy" in it, and he was acting pretty much the same, that is, Michael Madsen as usual, coulda been Mr. Yellow Lite. If he wants to play a good guy he'd have to change or expand on his style somehow.
So Louise Fletcher, known for evil Nurse Ratched, but what later? I remember her mainly from the "Invaders From Mars" remake as the schoolteacher and this scene!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)She's actually worked pretty consistently, but the films and TV have been kind of a mixed bag interms of success and quality. She'll be 82 this month!
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)in Gran Torino. It is still difficult for me to see him in other things because of how he portrayed such an insufferable ass in that movie.. even though the movie turned around it's still hard for me to watch him in other things.
He's a good actor, he made me hate him in that movie!
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)I can't see the man without thinking of that.
I haven't see him in anything in years though. A good thing.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)as other than a villain.
Ironic for a Kindergarten teacher or not.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)She liked kids and after Oz, many were afraid of her.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)according to IMDB.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)I just remember her doing coffee commercials. Maxwell House, I think.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Given
Ramsay Bolton - Iwan Rheon
Walder Frey - David Bradley
Cersei Lannister - Lena Headey
Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister) - Jack Gleeson
Vile wretches one and all.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)a plethora of "bad guys," it's very hard to choose just one. But the fact is that several do excellent jobs as actors because they so clearly play against type.
Iwan Rheon, e.g., the thoroughly despicable psychopath Ramsay Bolton, is in realty a VERY far cry from that.
I saw him in a BBC1 series called Our Girl as Dylan "Smurf" Smith. The difference is night and day and he's quite lovable.
Here's his Wiki write-up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwan_Rheon He's much closer to "Smurf." But if one has only seen Ramsay, it's hard to imagine Rheon as anything else.
intrepidity
(7,302 posts)Iwan Rheon is such a likable character in that
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)Kit Harington talk about each other's roles in some of the YouTube takes of their interactions in the "Battle of the Bastards." When Rheon speaks about the battle, etc., he is himself. Then you see him as Ramsay and it's as if there are two different persons.
Initech
(100,079 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Michael Dunn
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)the tv show "My Three Sons." Much later, it was jarring to see him play a jerk (much earlier in his career) in The Caine Mutiny.
Aristus
(66,380 posts)the loveable absent-minded professor, I was disappointed to learn that IRL, MacMurray was a pursy-lipped, disapproving conservative.
malthaussen
(17,200 posts)He sold that role beautifully, and Fonda was almost always a good guy in other movies.
-- Mal
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)but I still see him as Tom Joad, Mr.Roberts, Juror #8 and Norman Thayer.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)And Fonda was deliberately cast against type. From the Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_in_the_West
When he accepted the role, Fonda came to the set with brown contacts and facial hair. Fonda felt having dark eyes and facial hair would blend well with his character's evil and also help the audience to accept this "new" Fonda as the bad guy, but Leone immediately told him to remove the contacts and facial hair. Leone felt that Fonda's blue eyes best reflected the cold, icy nature of the killer. It was one of the first times in a western film where the villain would be played by the lead actor.
I saw the film when it first came out ... and was shocked. But I never forgot it.
malthaussen
(17,200 posts)So often they are cast as one type, and that's it for the career. And usually, when they get a chance to go against this, they hit it out of the park.
-- Mal
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Jimmy Stewart was a villian/murderer in After The Thin Man/
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)against type in The Apartment as the creepy and philandering boss of Jack Lemmon.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)One the one hand, Sheriff Taylor. On the other, Larry Rhodes from A Face in the Crowd.
malthaussen
(17,200 posts)The high point of television, in my mind, came in the finale when Dennis Franz decked him. You could argue that "Chief Daniels" was not, strictly speaking, a "villain," but he owned that role so totally, he could never sell another character to me.
-- Mal
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)Not villain so much, more just a jerk.
The husband of Geena Davis in Thelma and Louise.
The rival golfer in Happy Gilmore.
Played the smarmy Jack Barry in Quiz Show.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Though he never played a Romulan in the Star Trek genra.
He grew up in Romulus NY
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Hobart College in Geneva, NY.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And the dude in Urban cowboy that played John Travolta's rival, Scott Glen.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)Followed by Bruce Dern
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The kind that made you shudder when you first saw them in a movie, cause you knew they're going to do something just horribly awful!
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)He often came across as a nice guy while playing the bad guy, not unlike Eddie Haskell on Leave it to Beaver.
lastlib
(23,239 posts)in The Cowboys. For me, he will always have that sulphurous odor with any role he ever plays.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He did evil things to Clint Eastwood in the Spaghetti westerns too.
lastlib
(23,239 posts)Not John Wayne, though.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)He's that good an actor, sulfurous odor and all.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Remember Dallas (the TV program)? When JR was "in the hospital," some of the real Dallas hospitals were inundated with flowers and wishes for him to "get well."
THOSE people, IMO, are probably the majority of dumdum's followers-- have no sense of reality, don't have two grey cells to rub together, etc.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)Always takes me a second to adjust, whenever he appears on screen...
intrepidity
(7,302 posts)I first knew him from his "Oz" role and everything after has been tainted. The one where he was a drum teacher was easy, he was a nasty sonabitch in that one.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I first saw him in 1982 BBC adaptation of Trollopes Barchester Chronicles, where he played a very cunning and wicked
Obadiah Slope, the calculating curate.
Look at his face, that eyebrow....
Great fun to watch that series, and I finally got a copy of it a few years ago.
Then Rickman was the evil Sheriff in Ken Costner's Robin Hood, his role was played with a few dashes of humor.
and lastly....no one else can ever ever be Snape.
Never.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)lastlib
(23,239 posts)that is still my favorite role of his. I thought his Sheriff of Nottingham was a bit too over the top.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)It's hard to beat Alan Rickman for unadulterated evil.
BarbaRosa
(2,684 posts)Every time I see him I need to remind myself that he is most likely a nice person.
Archae
(46,328 posts)Mendocino
(7,495 posts)in Air Force One. I expected him to start twisting his mustache, give BWAAHHHAA laugh and tie the presidents family down on a railroad track
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)You can't polish a turd and call it gold.
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)wooden acting, preposterous situations, cliche ridden and terrible special effects. Surprising that Wolfgang Petersen who directed a gem like Das Boot could be responsible for this turkey.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)She first knew him as Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies. A while later, she was watching another movie with Oldman, looking completely different, and I asked her if she knew the actor and she was stumped. (Might have been Batman Begins?) Then, she was watching another movie with him (Red Riding Hood?) and I got her again. So, her answer now if I ask her if she recognizes the actor is "Sirius Black?"
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)Shrek
(3,980 posts)Both Battlestar Galactica and Burn Notice.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)He said that he knew he nailed the part when people actually spit at him on the street once.
Just the pure embodiment of psychopathic evil.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)edbermac
(15,940 posts)Will never see him as anyone but Norman Bates.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)Ken Osmond as Eddie Haskell in Leave it to Beaver. I had trouble seeing him as anyone else. Even when he became a cop, I still thought of him as Eddie Haskell.
Wolf
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)Even YEARS as the easy going police chief sidekick of Adrian Monk can't erase the impact of this role.
a kennedy
(29,669 posts)Mark Harmon is the actor, but can't think of the killer he played.....even looked like him.
Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)a kennedy
(29,669 posts)don't cha think he does look like Bundy, back in the day, but don't cha think so??
Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)Intense brow like Harry Hamlin and the rest is Anthony Perkins.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Orrex
(63,213 posts)Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)jpak
(41,758 posts)Horrifying...
Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)eight movies constantly working against the moral - and Divine - right of the powerful to exercise their power. And the way he coldbloodedly slaughtered Voldemort, who was nothing more than a troubled child who grew into adulthood trying to find his place in the world. A world which Harry heartlessly denied him.
I know he was just acting, but I can't forgive him for that.
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Screw him and his "divine" right to power.
And that goes double for the floating fat man Harkonnen!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Cloth-booted thugs kidnapping young children and indoctrinating them into being child soldiers. At least Anakin finally got to kill him.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)hook, line, and sinker.
Did he ever think for himself? Ever critically examine to realize that the whole "Jedi Order" was just a child-sex group that managed to make itself look legitimate through nonsensical mumbo jumbo and tricks?
I wonder what the psychic cost was to lie to himself for his whole life about who he and his order really were.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)irisblue
(32,976 posts)Started out as a neutral/good character then morphed into an evil bastard. I double take when I see him in Star Trek.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Granted, Walternate was possibly a good man at one time before events beyond his control turned him into the monster he became. Noble's performance as Walternate was extraordinarily frightful which was amazing given how Noble had portrayed original Walter up to and beyond Walternate's introduction. Walter spent the series attempting to atone for past sins of his own doing. Noble was simply phenomenal from the series' first episode until its last. In retrospect the series offers up one of the best and most fascinating father-son relationships ever told on television. The series deserves to be recognized as one of the best sci-fi series in television history alongside Lost in Space, The Twilight Zone, Star Trek (original, TNG and DS9), The X Files, Lost and the 2000s version of Battlestar Galactica.
irisblue
(32,976 posts)He really should have gotten Emmys for those roles. The scene where Walter sat on the floor next to Walternate talking about 'their son Peter' how he held his body playing 2 characters who were similar but had so many essential differences is amazing acting.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)He's just AWESOME!
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Also Donald Sutherland in Lock Up
Funny how they both played sadistic prison wardens.
clarice
(5,504 posts)because of his versatility as an actor...his character as John Doe in Seven was hard to forget
Upthevibe
(8,051 posts)O.M.G. he was awful. That was actually a good movie. Also, I had a hard time watching Jeff Daniels after "Terms of Endearment." His character just disgusted me. However, I then saw him in "The Butchers Wife,"Plesantville"," ? on sp.), a good Woody Allen movie (that I can't think of the name right now), and Will on the show "The Network." I'm sure there are others I've seen him in but can't remember. I just adore him now. He's one of my favs.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Tries to do a movie every year or so and live normally the rest of the time.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I still get chills when I see him brush off Levine.
clarice
(5,504 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I'm almost finished with binge-watching House of Cards.
clarice
(5,504 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)as Frank and Claire Underwood.
Season 1 is excellent overall - great writing, outstanding acting and with some good twists. Seasons 2 and 3 are very good, but not quite at the same level as Season 1. Season 3, though, did have some head scratching moments in it. I think Season 4 (so far) is better than 3.
Still, wondering how far they can go after season 4 and if will become too repetitive with all the political manipulations and backstabbing episode after episode and season after season.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Ick. Ick. Ick.
The Bakshi Lord of the Rings still creeps me out because I hear Gandalf as Noah Cross.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)I felt like I was really watching a Nazi.
Number9Dream
(1,562 posts)Late to the thread, but his performance as Mr. Dark is unforgettable.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I'm trying to catch up on a lot of SciFi/Fantasy classics I missed growing up, and that was one in the top 100 I read recently.
Good book, and I can see how it influenced a lot of Fantasy/Horror/SciFi afterwards. I'll have to catch the movie now.
Number9Dream
(1,562 posts)Jason Robards, Jonathan Pryce, Pam Grier...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086336/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Number9Dream
(1,562 posts)Taking show to mean TV show, the only TV show I look forward to anymore is "Turn: Washington's Spies". The brutal, detestable Capt. Simcoe is the character I'd like to see done away with. Unless I see Samuel Roukin in a different role, he'll remain a villain.
Sentath
(2,243 posts)Anthony Ainley wasn't bad at it either.