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Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 08:42 PM Jul 2016

Name an actor who played a villain in a show so successfully, that it's difficult to see him as

anything else.

For me it's the high sparrow from Game of Thrones. Jonathan Pryce. His face looks too smug to me, no matter what role he plays.

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Name an actor who played a villain in a show so successfully, that it's difficult to see him as (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 OP
"Oh the pain, the pain" DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #1
Jonathan Harris TuxedoKat Jul 2016 #22
Thanks for sharing, I too, would have told him he was the best actor! DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #62
LOL TuxedoKat Jul 2016 #66
I saw the series in Spanish. Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #25
LOL, Thanks DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #63
My first reaction, too! He made quite the impression. nt Still Blue in PDX Jul 2016 #115
William B Davis Tom Kitten Jul 2016 #2
That is so true about that character. Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #26
Titus Welliver from LOST charlie and algernon Jul 2016 #3
Funny, I never got into Lost TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #7
Doug Bradley - Hellraiser Grassy Knoll Jul 2016 #4
He's a Pittsburgh resident now... have run into him at a few cons... Rhythm Jul 2016 #6
Tony Todd - Candyman and many other villains, including Duke in 'Sushi Girl' pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #13
The first time I ever saw Tony Todd, I didn't know who he was. kentauros Jul 2016 #15
Todd is a fine actor, onscreen and onstage pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #16
Hamill is still pretty reconizable to me. kentauros Jul 2016 #19
I didn't recognize him in 'Sushi Girl' and was floored when they rolled the credits pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #20
Yeah, "Corvette Summer" did some major damage to his face. kentauros Jul 2016 #21
I will always hate Babylon 5 because my hubby grabbed a video Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #27
Oh, I'm sorry. kentauros Jul 2016 #47
Sir Christopher Lee. sir pball Jul 2016 #5
Chucky pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #8
Of all the horror genre that I don't like, at all, Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #28
Well, it's campy pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #29
LOL! Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #31
Those and the Leprechaun movies are great. Oneironaut Jul 2016 #91
Michael Madsen TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #9
Ditto Michael Madsen and...Louise Fletcher! Tom Kitten Jul 2016 #109
I looked up Louise's IMDB page TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #110
Clint Eastwood Texasgal Jul 2016 #10
James Russo played a rapist in the movie "Extremities" back in 1986 Solly Mack Jul 2016 #11
The Wicked Witch of the West in Oz nt Arazi Jul 2016 #12
Meh. She was pretty green then, and her performance was watered down if you ask me. pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #14
LOL geardaddy Jul 2016 #103
Margaret Hamilton definetely hard to see whistler162 Jul 2016 #23
I read somewhere that she kind of regretted her role as the wicked witch. DawgHouse Jul 2016 #69
which is why she went on Mr. Roger's Neighborhood whistler162 Jul 2016 #88
I did not know that. DawgHouse Jul 2016 #93
That's a surprising choice Xipe Totec Jul 2016 #17
OMG yes, GoT has such BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #60
Watch Vicious intrepidity Jul 2016 #68
It's even fun to watch him and BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #78
Easy: Heath Ledger as the Joker in the Dark Knight Initech Jul 2016 #18
Dr. Miguelito Quixote Loveless baldguy Jul 2016 #24
My absolute favorite "WWW" episodes! WinkyDink Jul 2016 #41
Here is an example of the opposite....as a kid, I only knew of Fred McMurray as the affable dad on Tanuki Jul 2016 #30
Extending that into real life, after seeing him as the Dad in "My Three Sons" and as Aristus Jul 2016 #32
Try Henry Fonda in "Once Upon a Time in the West." malthaussen Jul 2016 #34
Indeed a frightening turn, Mendocino Jul 2016 #39
That film is a real classic. BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #59
I always love it when actors can act. malthaussen Jul 2016 #61
Fred MacMurray played the murder in Double Idemity whistler162 Jul 2016 #37
Fred also played Mendocino Jul 2016 #45
Same with Andy Griffith. DawgHouse Jul 2016 #71
Joh Cypher in Hill Street Blues. malthaussen Jul 2016 #33
Christopher McDonald Mendocino Jul 2016 #35
Well he is a Romulan after all whistler162 Jul 2016 #36
And he graduated from my alma mater geardaddy Jul 2016 #105
Biff/Thomas Wilson........from Back to the Future Sheepshank Jul 2016 #38
Lee Van Cleef Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #40
Both were the nastiest bad guys ever lunatica Jul 2016 #43
Bruce Dern was an enigma Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #46
I have never forgiven him for shooting John Wayne. In. The. Back. lastlib Jul 2016 #50
And it wasn't just John Wayne either lunatica Jul 2016 #52
True dat. But I can overlook it. lastlib Jul 2016 #53
Bruce Dern received genuine death threats for shooting the Duke dead on the silver screen Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #54
You really gotta wonder about some people ailsagirl Jul 2016 #57
I took "show" to mean "TV." So----the original Wo Fat! WinkyDink Jul 2016 #42
J K Simmons (Vern Schillinger, from Oz) petronius Jul 2016 #44
Agreed intrepidity Jul 2016 #67
Alan Rickman , rest his soul. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2016 #48
He even called off Christmas! Tanuki Jul 2016 #58
Wasn't he also Hans Gruber in Die Hard? lastlib Jul 2016 #74
Yes NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #81
He was also the villain ringleader in Die Hard jmowreader Jul 2016 #75
Gary Oldman BarbaRosa Jul 2016 #49
Wait until you see him as a sort of father figure to Elijah Wood. Archae Jul 2016 #51
Gary jumped the villian shark Mendocino Jul 2016 #64
He was a good villain in The Professional too n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #73
To be fair, the whole movie was bad. Oneironaut Jul 2016 #92
Oh yeah beyond bad, Mendocino Jul 2016 #94
I have a running joke with my daughter on Oldman NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #84
Guy Fieri Major Nikon Jul 2016 #55
LOL! DawgHouse Jul 2016 #70
This one for the win. Rabrrrrrr Jul 2016 #96
Tricia Helfer Shrek Jul 2016 #56
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goth in Schindler's List sharp_stick Jul 2016 #65
And then he played Voldemort. nt Ilsa Jul 2016 #72
Wow 75 posts and no mention of Anthony Perkins. edbermac Jul 2016 #76
What show was he in? Orrex Jul 2016 #87
If you call him a villain, Ken Osmond. Wolf Frankula Jul 2016 #77
Ted Levine takes the cake for this question: PassingFair Jul 2016 #79
The guy that played the female college killer..... a kennedy Jul 2016 #80
Ted Bundy? Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #83
Yes, and thanks......I still don't watch Mark in anything...... a kennedy Jul 2016 #85
I live in Florida so Bundy's looks are very defined. Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #86
Bob Denver as Gilligan. Still gives me nightmares. Katashi_itto Jul 2016 #82
Montgomery Burns Orrex Jul 2016 #89
Javier Bardem. Nothing beats Chigurh! Oneironaut Jul 2016 #90
Shirley Temple - Good Ship Lolipop jpak Jul 2016 #95
Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter - Rabrrrrrr Jul 2016 #97
You Voldemort apologists are all the same. Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #99
Or Alec Guinness as Obi Wan from the corrupt Jedi conspiracy Recursion Jul 2016 #114
Obi Wan - nothing but a Yoda sycophant. He sure bought the Jedi line Rabrrrrrr Jul 2016 #116
Alan Rickman after Diehard. kairos12 Jul 2016 #98
Leonard Nimoy as William Bell in Fringe irisblue Jul 2016 #100
Speaking of Fringe, John Noble's "Walternate" character is a splendid example of evil. LonePirate Jul 2016 #101
John Noble, Walter & Walternate irisblue Jul 2016 #102
and as Denethor and as Sherlock's father Morland Rabrrrrrr Jul 2016 #108
Gary Oldman in "Murder in the First" geardaddy Jul 2016 #104
Kevin Spacey....Although it's not hard to picture him in different roles..... clarice Jul 2016 #106
Kevin Spacey plays the best A..holes. I saw him in a movie called "Swimming With Sharks" Upthevibe Jul 2016 #107
Purple Rose of Cairo! Daniels as no agent and lives in the Midwest most of the time... bettyellen Jul 2016 #126
His Mr. Williamson in Glengarry Glen Ross was amazing Recursion Jul 2016 #112
also Keysor Sose in The Usual Suspects. nt clarice Jul 2016 #113
He's almost always great to watch NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #121
That's next on my list.. I heard that it was really good. Your opinion? nt clarice Jul 2016 #123
Spacey and Robin Wright are excellent NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #124
John Huston in Chinatown Recursion Jul 2016 #111
Ralph Fiennes as Nazi Amon Goeth in Schindler's List milestogo Jul 2016 #117
Per the OP: Jonathan Pryce as Mr. Dark in "Something Wicked This Way Comes" Number9Dream Jul 2016 #118
I just read the book not long ago NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #120
Ray Bradbury wrote the screenplay & great cast Number9Dream Jul 2016 #122
Samuel Roukin as "Simcoe" on Turn: Washington's Spies Number9Dream Jul 2016 #119
Roger Delgado Sentath Jul 2016 #125

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
22. Jonathan Harris
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:36 AM
Jul 2016

He's the first person I thought of too! This was my favorite show too as a kid Diana. My sister and brother-in-law met Jonathan Harris in an elevator at a sci-fi convention years ago. They said he was very nice and had a great conversation with him. My sister made a comment to him about how she liked how he didn't just play a straight villain but had injected some humor into his part, which made his character more interesting. He was pleased that people had noticed that.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
62. Thanks for sharing, I too, would have told him he was the best actor!
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016
Then, I would have told him how I really felt. I had a really big crush on Will Robinson and the robot was the best. That he played the biggest pain in the butt-He put the whole family in danger on that show. Those cliffhanger endings-A week was forever to a little kid!
That he was the most hated TV villain of my whole childhood--great actor!
I would have told Jonathan Harris how lucky my generation was to
grow up with so many great TV shows--60s were the best!

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
66. LOL
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

We were leading parallel lives back then!!! I had the biggest crush on Will Robinson too. Was shocked when I found out he was four years older than me!!! My best friend and I even wrote some fan letters to him back then. I still have some photos of him and the Lost in Space group sent to me from the show. Great memories!!!

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
25. I saw the series in Spanish.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jul 2016

Doctor Smith's voice was tailored cast. So much so that I was surprised to hear the refined voice of the actual actor when I saw the first episode in English.

The Robot, in Spanish, was hilarious. Peligro, Peligro, Peligro...

Tom Kitten

(7,347 posts)
2. William B Davis
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jul 2016

As Cigarette Smoking Man...hard to see him as anything else. Although his appearance has changed as he's gotten older.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
26. That is so true about that character.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jul 2016

They casted him well. There is a local good ole boy that looks just like him and the little hairs on the back of my neck rise whenever I see him.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
7. Funny, I never got into Lost
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jul 2016

When I see this actor, I think of "Gone Baby Gone". Really good movie and he was really good in it.

Rhythm

(5,435 posts)
6. He's a Pittsburgh resident now... have run into him at a few cons...
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jul 2016

He's only of average height, and a slightly-built older man...
...but that ~voice~...
Gives me chills.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. Tony Todd - Candyman and many other villains, including Duke in 'Sushi Girl'
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jul 2016

Tony Todd, Candyman


Tony Todd as Duke in 'Sushi Girl'

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
15. The first time I ever saw Tony Todd, I didn't know who he was.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jul 2016

That was in the Babylon 5 movie "A Call to Arms." So, all I saw was a good actor in a good part. No horror-movie baggage







http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Leonard_Anderson
Leonard Anderson was a Human male who served as an officer in Earthforce during the dawn of the Third Age of mankind. As a Captain, Anderson commanded the EAS Charon during and after the Earth Alliance Civil War, where he remained on the side of Clark's regime. Anderson died aboard the Victory in 2266 protecting Earth from the Drakh controlled Death Cloud.


Biography

An officer in Earthforce by the start of the Earth Alliance Civil War, Anderson was in command of an Omega-class destroyer named EAS Charon as of 2261. During the war, Anderson and his crew had a chance to join John Sheridan's resistance movement, but elected to remain on Clark's side. Years later, after the war had ended, Anderson would lament to Sheridan himself that he and his crew regretted the decision.

In 2266, Anderson began having distrubing dreams of a dead world, and the faces of John Sheridan, Dureena Nafeel, and a Drazi nammed Ni'im. Realizing that the dreams meant something, Anderson ignored orders and made way for Babylon 5, where he met with Sheridan, Nafeel and Elizabeth Lochley. While there, Anderson agreed to assist Sheridan in a plan to stop a Drakh attack of Earth, and took the Charon to the docks where the Excalibur and Victory were located.

In 2267 he took command of the Victory and fought during the Battle of Daltron 7. Captain Anderson died when the Victory was destroyed with all hands by the Drakh controlled Death Cloud in orbit around Earth.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
16. Todd is a fine actor, onscreen and onstage
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 01:51 AM
Jul 2016

I remember reading that he also taught script writing to high school students during his successful (and ongoing) acting career. But his deep voice and menacing presence made him a natural for villain roles.

His character really gets his comeuppance in 'Sushi Girl,' which is a basically a story of revenge. It's hard to watch because of the torture scenes, but the ending is very satisfying.

The film also features Mark Hamill, from 'Star Wars,' who is unrecognizable in look and voice unless you know it's him. A clip of him:



kentauros

(29,414 posts)
19. Hamill is still pretty reconizable to me.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:21 AM
Jul 2016

So long as I can remember their names, their faces are usually easy to figure out unless there's a lot of makeup.

Now, it is difficult for me to hear the Mark Hamill we all know when he's doing voice-acting work, such as his Joker in the Batman animated series:

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. I didn't recognize him in 'Sushi Girl' and was floored when they rolled the credits
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:28 AM
Jul 2016

iirc, a car crash shortly after Star Wars left Hamill with some facial disfigurement. Not extreme, but a noticeable change from his fresh-faced appearance in Star Wars.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
21. Yeah, "Corvette Summer" did some major damage to his face.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jul 2016

In a way, it helped "grow" his character in the subsequent Star Wars movies, other than normal aging.

Now, the one actor I didn't recognize recently was James Caan. His aging has somehow changed his face so much that I just couldn't figure out who he was. On the other hand, I was recently watching "Life With Father" from 1947, and recognized Martin Milner as one of the sons. He must have been in his mid-teens at the time

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
27. I will always hate Babylon 5 because my hubby grabbed a video
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jul 2016

to tape the last show, and, by accident, took the video that had my two year old daughter's performance at the Christmas play.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
28. Of all the horror genre that I don't like, at all,
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jul 2016

the evil doll ones definitely take first prize.

Can't explain why, because I can handle movies like The Thing.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
29. Well, it's campy
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jul 2016

Some things I originally passed on I got into later only because of their campiness--like The Big Lebowski and Road House.

One thing I got a kick out of about Chucky was that 'Chucky' actually did interviews. I remember one media interview in which he was quoted as saying he got into movies after being a supermodel because supermodelling was just so unfulfilling.

Oneironaut

(5,500 posts)
91. Those and the Leprechaun movies are great.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jul 2016

They don't take themselves seriously, and throw purposely moronic things in there for a laugh.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
9. Michael Madsen
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jul 2016

as Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs. I can't see him without thinking of THAT scene. Actually I can't listen to "Stuck in the Middle With You" for the same reason.

Robert Mitchum was always a bad guy because of Cape Fear and Night of the Hunter.

Louise Fletcher will always be Nurse Ratched.

If the first movie I saw Morgan Freeman in was Street Smart, it would have taken a lot for me to get over it.

Dis-Honorable Mention to some pretty boys who played villans really well. I love it when actors play against type.

Matt Dillon in A Kiss Before Dying

Rob Lowe in Bad Influence

James Spader in Less Than Zero

Casey Affleck in The Killer Inside Me

Chris Evans in The Iceman

Tom Kitten

(7,347 posts)
109. Ditto Michael Madsen and...Louise Fletcher!
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 01:46 AM
Jul 2016

For pretty much the same reason, THAT scene! Plus I've seen a few other movies where he played a sadistic killer. I remember starting to watch a movie, I forget which one it was, and he was supposed to be some kind of "good guy" in it, and he was acting pretty much the same, that is, Michael Madsen as usual, coulda been Mr. Yellow Lite. If he wants to play a good guy he'd have to change or expand on his style somehow.

So Louise Fletcher, known for evil Nurse Ratched, but what later? I remember her mainly from the "Invaders From Mars" remake as the schoolteacher and this scene!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
110. I looked up Louise's IMDB page
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 02:39 AM
Jul 2016

She's actually worked pretty consistently, but the films and TV have been kind of a mixed bag interms of success and quality. She'll be 82 this month!

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
10. Clint Eastwood
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:09 AM
Jul 2016

in Gran Torino. It is still difficult for me to see him in other things because of how he portrayed such an insufferable ass in that movie.. even though the movie turned around it's still hard for me to watch him in other things.

He's a good actor, he made me hate him in that movie!

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
11. James Russo played a rapist in the movie "Extremities" back in 1986
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:09 AM
Jul 2016

I can't see the man without thinking of that.

I haven't see him in anything in years though. A good thing.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
23. Margaret Hamilton definetely hard to see
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:40 AM
Jul 2016

as other than a villain.

Ironic for a Kindergarten teacher or not.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
69. I read somewhere that she kind of regretted her role as the wicked witch.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jul 2016

She liked kids and after Oz, many were afraid of her.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
17. That's a surprising choice
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 01:52 AM
Jul 2016

Given

Ramsay Bolton - Iwan Rheon
Walder Frey - David Bradley
Cersei Lannister - Lena Headey
Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister) - Jack Gleeson

Vile wretches one and all.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
60. OMG yes, GoT has such
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

a plethora of "bad guys," it's very hard to choose just one. But the fact is that several do excellent jobs as actors because they so clearly play against type.

Iwan Rheon, e.g., the thoroughly despicable psychopath Ramsay Bolton, is in realty a VERY far cry from that.

I saw him in a BBC1 series called Our Girl as Dylan "Smurf" Smith. The difference is night and day and he's quite lovable.

Here's his Wiki write-up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwan_Rheon He's much closer to "Smurf." But if one has only seen Ramsay, it's hard to imagine Rheon as anything else.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
78. It's even fun to watch him and
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:07 AM
Jul 2016

Kit Harington talk about each other's roles in some of the YouTube takes of their interactions in the "Battle of the Bastards." When Rheon speaks about the battle, etc., he is himself. Then you see him as Ramsay and it's as if there are two different persons.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
30. Here is an example of the opposite....as a kid, I only knew of Fred McMurray as the affable dad on
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jul 2016

the tv show "My Three Sons." Much later, it was jarring to see him play a jerk (much earlier in his career) in The Caine Mutiny.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
32. Extending that into real life, after seeing him as the Dad in "My Three Sons" and as
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jul 2016

the loveable absent-minded professor, I was disappointed to learn that IRL, MacMurray was a pursy-lipped, disapproving conservative.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
34. Try Henry Fonda in "Once Upon a Time in the West."
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jul 2016

He sold that role beautifully, and Fonda was almost always a good guy in other movies.

-- Mal

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
59. That film is a real classic.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jul 2016

And Fonda was deliberately cast against type. From the Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_in_the_West

Fonda did not accept Leone's first offer to play Frank, so Leone flew to New York to convince him, telling him: "Picture this: the camera shows a gunman from the waist down pulling his gun and shooting a running child. The camera tilts up to the gunman's face and...it's Henry Fonda." After meeting with Leone, Fonda called his friend Eli Wallach, who had co-starred in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Wallach advised Fonda to do the film, telling him "You will have the time of your life."

When he accepted the role, Fonda came to the set with brown contacts and facial hair. Fonda felt having dark eyes and facial hair would blend well with his character's evil and also help the audience to accept this "new" Fonda as the bad guy, but Leone immediately told him to remove the contacts and facial hair. Leone felt that Fonda's blue eyes best reflected the cold, icy nature of the killer. It was one of the first times in a western film where the villain would be played by the lead actor.


I saw the film when it first came out ... and was shocked. But I never forgot it.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
61. I always love it when actors can act.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jul 2016

So often they are cast as one type, and that's it for the career. And usually, when they get a chance to go against this, they hit it out of the park.

-- Mal

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
37. Fred MacMurray played the murder in Double Idemity
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jul 2016

Jimmy Stewart was a villian/murderer in After The Thin Man/

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
71. Same with Andy Griffith.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jul 2016

One the one hand, Sheriff Taylor. On the other, Larry Rhodes from A Face in the Crowd.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
33. Joh Cypher in Hill Street Blues.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jul 2016

The high point of television, in my mind, came in the finale when Dennis Franz decked him. You could argue that "Chief Daniels" was not, strictly speaking, a "villain," but he owned that role so totally, he could never sell another character to me.

-- Mal

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
35. Christopher McDonald
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jul 2016

Not villain so much, more just a jerk.

The husband of Geena Davis in Thelma and Louise.

The rival golfer in Happy Gilmore.

Played the smarmy Jack Barry in Quiz Show.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
36. Well he is a Romulan after all
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jul 2016

Though he never played a Romulan in the Star Trek genra.

He grew up in Romulus NY

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
38. Biff/Thomas Wilson........from Back to the Future
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jul 2016

And the dude in Urban cowboy that played John Travolta's rival, Scott Glen.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
43. Both were the nastiest bad guys ever
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

The kind that made you shudder when you first saw them in a movie, cause you knew they're going to do something just horribly awful!

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
46. Bruce Dern was an enigma
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jul 2016

He often came across as a nice guy while playing the bad guy, not unlike Eddie Haskell on Leave it to Beaver.

lastlib

(23,239 posts)
50. I have never forgiven him for shooting John Wayne. In. The. Back.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

in The Cowboys. For me, he will always have that sulphurous odor with any role he ever plays.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
52. And it wasn't just John Wayne either
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jul 2016

He did evil things to Clint Eastwood in the Spaghetti westerns too.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
54. Bruce Dern received genuine death threats for shooting the Duke dead on the silver screen
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jul 2016

He's that good an actor, sulfurous odor and all.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
57. You really gotta wonder about some people
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jul 2016

Remember Dallas (the TV program)? When JR was "in the hospital," some of the real Dallas hospitals were inundated with flowers and wishes for him to "get well."



THOSE people, IMO, are probably the majority of dumdum's followers-- have no sense of reality, don't have two grey cells to rub together, etc.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
44. J K Simmons (Vern Schillinger, from Oz)
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

Always takes me a second to adjust, whenever he appears on screen...

intrepidity

(7,302 posts)
67. Agreed
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jul 2016

I first knew him from his "Oz" role and everything after has been tainted. The one where he was a drum teacher was easy, he was a nasty sonabitch in that one.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
48. Alan Rickman , rest his soul.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jul 2016

I first saw him in 1982 BBC adaptation of Trollope’s Barchester Chronicles, where he played a very cunning and wicked
Obadiah Slope, the calculating curate.
Look at his face, that eyebrow....





Great fun to watch that series, and I finally got a copy of it a few years ago.

Then Rickman was the evil Sheriff in Ken Costner's Robin Hood, his role was played with a few dashes of humor.

and lastly....no one else can ever ever be Snape.
Never.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
81. Yes
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jul 2016

that is still my favorite role of his. I thought his Sheriff of Nottingham was a bit too over the top.

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
64. Gary jumped the villian shark
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

in Air Force One. I expected him to start twisting his mustache, give BWAAHHHAA laugh and tie the presidents family down on a railroad track

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
94. Oh yeah beyond bad,
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jul 2016

wooden acting, preposterous situations, cliche ridden and terrible special effects. Surprising that Wolfgang Petersen who directed a gem like Das Boot could be responsible for this turkey.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
84. I have a running joke with my daughter on Oldman
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jul 2016

She first knew him as Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies. A while later, she was watching another movie with Oldman, looking completely different, and I asked her if she knew the actor and she was stumped. (Might have been Batman Begins?) Then, she was watching another movie with him (Red Riding Hood?) and I got her again. So, her answer now if I ask her if she recognizes the actor is "Sirius Black?"

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
65. Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goth in Schindler's List
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

He said that he knew he nailed the part when people actually spit at him on the street once.

Just the pure embodiment of psychopathic evil.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
77. If you call him a villain, Ken Osmond.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jul 2016

Ken Osmond as Eddie Haskell in Leave it to Beaver. I had trouble seeing him as anyone else. Even when he became a cop, I still thought of him as Eddie Haskell.

Wolf

a kennedy

(29,669 posts)
80. The guy that played the female college killer.....
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jul 2016

Mark Harmon is the actor, but can't think of the killer he played.....even looked like him.

a kennedy

(29,669 posts)
85. Yes, and thanks......I still don't watch Mark in anything......
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jul 2016

don't cha think he does look like Bundy, back in the day, but don't cha think so??

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
86. I live in Florida so Bundy's looks are very defined.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jul 2016

Intense brow like Harry Hamlin and the rest is Anthony Perkins.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
97. Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter -
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jul 2016

eight movies constantly working against the moral - and Divine - right of the powerful to exercise their power. And the way he coldbloodedly slaughtered Voldemort, who was nothing more than a troubled child who grew into adulthood trying to find his place in the world. A world which Harry heartlessly denied him.

I know he was just acting, but I can't forgive him for that.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
99. You Voldemort apologists are all the same.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jul 2016

Screw him and his "divine" right to power.

And that goes double for the floating fat man Harkonnen!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
114. Or Alec Guinness as Obi Wan from the corrupt Jedi conspiracy
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:34 AM
Jul 2016

Cloth-booted thugs kidnapping young children and indoctrinating them into being child soldiers. At least Anakin finally got to kill him.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
116. Obi Wan - nothing but a Yoda sycophant. He sure bought the Jedi line
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jul 2016

hook, line, and sinker.

Did he ever think for himself? Ever critically examine to realize that the whole "Jedi Order" was just a child-sex group that managed to make itself look legitimate through nonsensical mumbo jumbo and tricks?

I wonder what the psychic cost was to lie to himself for his whole life about who he and his order really were.

irisblue

(32,976 posts)
100. Leonard Nimoy as William Bell in Fringe
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jul 2016

Started out as a neutral/good character then morphed into an evil bastard. I double take when I see him in Star Trek.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
101. Speaking of Fringe, John Noble's "Walternate" character is a splendid example of evil.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jul 2016

Granted, Walternate was possibly a good man at one time before events beyond his control turned him into the monster he became. Noble's performance as Walternate was extraordinarily frightful which was amazing given how Noble had portrayed original Walter up to and beyond Walternate's introduction. Walter spent the series attempting to atone for past sins of his own doing. Noble was simply phenomenal from the series' first episode until its last. In retrospect the series offers up one of the best and most fascinating father-son relationships ever told on television. The series deserves to be recognized as one of the best sci-fi series in television history alongside Lost in Space, The Twilight Zone, Star Trek (original, TNG and DS9), The X Files, Lost and the 2000s version of Battlestar Galactica.

irisblue

(32,976 posts)
102. John Noble, Walter & Walternate
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jul 2016

He really should have gotten Emmys for those roles. The scene where Walter sat on the floor next to Walternate talking about 'their son Peter' how he held his body playing 2 characters who were similar but had so many essential differences is amazing acting.




geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
104. Gary Oldman in "Murder in the First"
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jul 2016

Also Donald Sutherland in Lock Up

Funny how they both played sadistic prison wardens.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
106. Kevin Spacey....Although it's not hard to picture him in different roles.....
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jul 2016

because of his versatility as an actor...his character as John Doe in Seven was hard to forget

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
107. Kevin Spacey plays the best A..holes. I saw him in a movie called "Swimming With Sharks"
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jul 2016

O.M.G. he was awful. That was actually a good movie. Also, I had a hard time watching Jeff Daniels after "Terms of Endearment." His character just disgusted me. However, I then saw him in "The Butchers Wife,"Plesantville",&quot ? on sp.), a good Woody Allen movie (that I can't think of the name right now), and Will on the show "The Network." I'm sure there are others I've seen him in but can't remember. I just adore him now. He's one of my favs.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
126. Purple Rose of Cairo! Daniels as no agent and lives in the Midwest most of the time...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jul 2016

Tries to do a movie every year or so and live normally the rest of the time.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
112. His Mr. Williamson in Glengarry Glen Ross was amazing
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:04 AM
Jul 2016

I still get chills when I see him brush off Levine.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
124. Spacey and Robin Wright are excellent
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jul 2016

as Frank and Claire Underwood.

Season 1 is excellent overall - great writing, outstanding acting and with some good twists. Seasons 2 and 3 are very good, but not quite at the same level as Season 1. Season 3, though, did have some head scratching moments in it. I think Season 4 (so far) is better than 3.

Still, wondering how far they can go after season 4 and if will become too repetitive with all the political manipulations and backstabbing episode after episode and season after season.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
111. John Huston in Chinatown
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:03 AM
Jul 2016

Ick. Ick. Ick.

The Bakshi Lord of the Rings still creeps me out because I hear Gandalf as Noah Cross.

Number9Dream

(1,562 posts)
118. Per the OP: Jonathan Pryce as Mr. Dark in "Something Wicked This Way Comes"
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jul 2016

Late to the thread, but his performance as Mr. Dark is unforgettable.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
120. I just read the book not long ago
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jul 2016

I'm trying to catch up on a lot of SciFi/Fantasy classics I missed growing up, and that was one in the top 100 I read recently.

Good book, and I can see how it influenced a lot of Fantasy/Horror/SciFi afterwards. I'll have to catch the movie now.

Number9Dream

(1,562 posts)
119. Samuel Roukin as "Simcoe" on Turn: Washington's Spies
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jul 2016

Taking show to mean TV show, the only TV show I look forward to anymore is "Turn: Washington's Spies". The brutal, detestable Capt. Simcoe is the character I'd like to see done away with. Unless I see Samuel Roukin in a different role, he'll remain a villain.

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