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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsPhone solicitors are taking it to the next level.
I have said it before, I don't answer the phone unless I know who is calling. Maybe I said it too loudly. I have had a call, and follow up, from a young lad named Matt from UCF. What makes his call stand out is that he talks like we know each other. Hey, this is Matt blah, blah, blah. Distinctly in a voice of familiarity.
Poor Matt. He doesn't know that I've had so many negative experiences with unethical people in this community, many affiliated with that very university, that I run from anything that has to do with it - especially if someone is assuming familiarity.
He called again this week. In a sorrowful voice, as if I hurt his feelings, he provided more information -- as if it would make a difference. He wanted to sell football tickets. Lord, lord. I wonder if the regents are aware of how much PR damage they do to themselves and their students if they hire people who are flat out good ole boys and out to use their positions in the community to enrich themselves and their family members.
Sorry, Matt. But, just for friendly advice, I HATE assumed familiarity from salespeople.
And then there's Petsmart. I love the place. They hire good people. But someone called for my husband, which is odd, because I only sent my hubby out once to pick up some dog food. I usually do the shopping. They don't need to solicit us. Most of our disposable income goes to the store. But an energize man from the place called to tell my husband that if he came down to the store he would get a free bag of dog food. What? I didn't know that Petsmart was hard selling.
Anyone experience this level of solicitation?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There are really sneaky ones who manage to get by my call screener by pretending that they are already a client or are seeking an attorney.
If they do that, I just assume they are looking for legal services and proceed from there.
Sooner or later, they try to stop me from selling them my services, and then the fun really starts.
mitch96
(13,924 posts)I put down the phone and walk away.. They wait, and wait and eventually they hang up.
They waste my time? I waste theirs... Squid pro quo. They call again, I do the same thing...
over and over and over and over...
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lastlib
(23,272 posts)let the receiver dangle (right down by my speakers ("coincidentally" , then fired up Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" (most obnoxious collection of noise ever assembled!) and let it play right into the receiver. I don't think he stayed on the line very long!
procon
(15,805 posts)who has a shitty job in telemarketing. They need the paycheck and they have to do what they're told, so I just opt out by screening all my calls. The only callers I torment is someone who obviously calls the wrong number and then keeps hitting redial to get the same recorded message from my phone. Those I answer and act out all kinds of crazy scenarios:
"Oh, they won the lotto and moved to Hawaii."
"She joined the Peace Corps and went to help some village in Africa."
"No, the store closed yesterday."
"Congratulations! As the 100th caller you've won a gift certificate. Come in and claim it."
The really annoying jerks either get a blast from my handy whistle, or if they are on a cell phone I just sit the phone aside and let them eat up their minutes while listening to my TV.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)LOL!
csziggy
(34,137 posts)And the people who solicit for charities are politely asked to not call again since I only donate to a few groups that I select and that do NOT use telephone solicitation to collect donations. I even try to shut them down quickly so they can continue to call and annoy other people.
The people I want to torture are the obvious scammers - fake Microsoft security and fake home security salespeople. THOSE get my great aunt's whistle blown as loud as possible into the mouthpiece. In the past I have played with them or let my husband do it - he loves to play solitaire while pretending to follow their directions until they get bored. But I am bored with them and tired of their crap so I want to hurt them in a way that will discourage more calls.
The robocalls - Heather from card services and the back brace people - are out of my reach to hurt. I report them to the Do Not Call list as often as possible in the hopes they will get busted. The fake IRS guys get reported to the Treasury.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)at my house is that these guys somehow fake the caller ID. I was waiting for a call back from my doctor yesterday. The phone rang, and the caller ID said it was the local hospital. I figured the doctor wasn't in the office that day but was calling between inpatients. It was some SOB wanting to sell me a brace for my (non-existent) arthritis pain.
I've had several calls that were ID'd as coming from my own number, which I've answered just because WTF? and they were sales calls, too.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)Agreed.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)My number ends in 2403. So I get 2402 or 2404 all the time.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)When they stop for a breath, I say, "Stop. Please take my number off your list and put me on the Do Not Call list."
They are usually very polite and say, "sorry for bothering you" or something like that. I haven't kept track to see if any of them called back, though. They aren't supposed to once you tell them that.
One of my sons worked at a call center during college. It's not a pleasant job. Please remember that there is a person on the other end of the call.
I have found some robocalls even give you an option at the end, like "If you do not wish to be contacted, please press 9."
IMO, it takes the same amount of time to be polite as to be rude to those poor folks.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)It just tells them that there's someone on the other end of the phone.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)you don't recognize! If it is someone who genuinely needs to speak to you, they will leave a message in voice mail so you can return the call at YOUR convenience.
Once you answer, if it is a sales call OR a scammer, you have verified there is a live person at this number. Or someone who will answer the phone. No one is obligated to answer their personal phone, no matter who is supposedly calling. Remember, caller ID can be spoofed. It can say you are calling yourself or it is Queen Elizabeth calling---neither of which is true. The crooks, thieves and scammers have figured nearly every angle. Your only safe defense is to never answer calls from numbers you don't know or that don't make sense. (Calling yourself? I don't think so!)
Remember: once they have you on the line, they have a script to follow to keep you on the line. They will do everything in their power of persuation to keep you engaged or listening. Forget what your mama taught you about good manners. Just don't answer or as soon as you know you're talking to sales callers or scammers, just hang up. Believe me, you won't be the first person that day to do that.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)I didn't answer these two solicitations. They left msgs on the recorder, which is very odd.
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)over $200/year. Screw that. I'll answer the phone and tell people not to call me again. I usually do it
somewhat politely (I don't tell them to go fu*k themselves) but what a PITA.
OnDoutside
(19,969 posts)They're about 10-20 bucks here in Europe.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)I think they are using people working from home or something so they block the number.
A few years back when my husband was on disability, the insurance company paying that called several times and every time the caller ID was blocked. If I had not answered, we would not have received his disability payments. I've had that happen with other insurance companies, too.
I used to run a business and the number I have now was my business number. I still get calls from people I met during that period or who have located me because of that business.
Just today I received a call from a woman who owns one of the horses I bred. The horse is now 24 years old and she rescued him from a bad situation. She loves him and wanted to know more about where he came from. It was a happy call for me since I seldom hear about the horses I bred unless it is bad news. I'm glad I answered that call even though I didn't recognize the number or name on the caller ID!
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)thst turn in to problems. Anyone always has the option to answer a call and then hang up once they establish it is a sales call or a scammer. My Mother-in-law receives multiple calls daily from out of the country scammers---primarily Jamaica. She has been scammed by some of these people, threatened and just run crazy by calling 20+ times a day. She thinks that ringing a cow bell in their ear is funny or will deter them. Her husband has cursed them out. The local sheriff's department even put a trace on their line but once they knew the calls came from out of the U.S. they said there was nothing they could do to make the caller stop.
We recommended changing the phone number but they won't do it. They are quite old and very stubborn. So my husband and I and their bank advised them not to answer calls from numbers they don't recognize. It is the only safe way for her not to interact with these thieves. Sadly, she is not consistent about it and occasionally answers those calls.
We do not have any kind of blocks on our phone. We just do not answer numbers we don't recognize but leave instructions for them to leave a message. I know that blocking unknown callers can be risky since you may miss important calls, so that is why we don't just allow known callers. We just screen our calls and our phone announces orally who the caller is so we don't even have to go to the phone to see it. Some cable companies put the number on the TV screen, too.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Then if you don't answer, the software moves on. It only connects the agent if they get a hello.
(Campaigns use these for phone banking too).
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)be recorded."
I told her to go record herself, sweetheart, and hung up.
A new level of pretend authority and importance.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)exploit. No more assumed courtesies anymore. Too many rude people have taken advantage of everyone's kindness. They see kindness as a weakness.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)If I'm expecting a call back and I don't know the precise number, then and only then will I pick up an unknown number. I'm usually wrong. I just hang up. Rude but as someone said one time, "I didn't ask them to call me". How true in my case. It's better than me getting snappy with them.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)How are they circumventing identification?
steve2470
(37,457 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)1- I respond happily and enthusiastically that I want to buy/donate.
2- Oh, sorry, I don't have a credit card
3- No, I don't have a checking account or debit card either
4- Well, you see there is a court order that my family got that says that I'm not allowed to handle money...........
I can sense their disappointment as they are hanging up.
BTW, I have a home-based business and don't want to ignore calls from my area, so I only do this to the scammers that trick the Caller ID into looking like a local call.
Special Prosciuto
(731 posts)Then go about my business, making a sandwich, mowing the lawn, going out shopping....
Lars39
(26,110 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)I didn't pick up. The messages that were left behind were very thorough.
Dulcinea
(6,660 posts)So many people have Caller ID! At my house, we don't answer the phone unless it's a number we recognize. We also have this:
https://www.nomorobo.com/
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Sales. I don't want to pay for caller ID either. That's a racket! After trying all of the above, now I just hang up.
I do notice that they are using bubbly young female voices on the robocalls now. Very disarming.
Iggo
(47,564 posts)That's the solution right there.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)was a might bit too familiar, acting like he already knew me. Sad thing is, I probably would have ignored him, if it weren't for the organization he was affiliated with.
That's what happens when you've lived here for a while. All that good, civil spirit gets spent early.