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El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 05:40 PM Sep 2019

People left out of Ken Burns Country Music

I haven't seen the last episode yet. I realize that it couldn't have everyone (even in 16 hours) but here are some important ones that were excluded:

Tennessee Ernie Ford - wow!
Crystal Gayle - incredible!
Dottie West - come on!
Glen Campbell - barely mentioned
John Denver - barely mentioned
Bill Mack - The most important country DJ!

Any others?

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People left out of Ken Burns Country Music (Original Post) El Supremo Sep 2019 OP
Levon Helm, Larry Campbell.... OneBlueDotBama Sep 2019 #1
John Hartford for one luvs2sing Sep 2019 #2
Haven't watched but let me just me just say HUUUUUGE game tonight ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #3
I forgot my bluegrass favorites. El Supremo Sep 2019 #4
Should have mentioned Aeroplane.. luvs2sing Sep 2019 #12
Jimmy Martin was a giant! Here Tom Russell tells us about it. Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2019 #55
Can't believe I've never heard this! luvs2sing Sep 2019 #56
Rockabilly seemed to be cut lil short, [for my tastes anyway]. empedocles Sep 2019 #5
The Darlings Tech Sep 2019 #6
Oh, Lord! True Blue American Sep 2019 #10
Sorry, just had to say it. We have been enjoying the documentary. Glad you got the humor. Tech Sep 2019 #19
Charlene, "But that one makes you cry Pa" Bob Loblaw Sep 2019 #33
The Dillards El Supremo Sep 2019 #20
Should have included that info. They were excellent musicians. I was a classical trained Tech Sep 2019 #22
Doc Watson perhaps? Chasdev Sep 2019 #7
Wow! El Supremo Sep 2019 #16
Wait. He was shown briefly in episode 6. El Supremo Sep 2019 #40
I noticed the absence of Tennessee Ernie Ford right off. He's on the side in 1 photo, that's it. Shrike47 Sep 2019 #8
Jerry Jeff Walker ? dweller Sep 2019 #9
Townes gets covered in Episode 7..;-) Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #11
is that tonite? dweller Sep 2019 #15
On at 8 PM True Blue American Sep 2019 #30
thank you ! dweller Sep 2019 #31
Had just made sure the DVR True Blue American Sep 2019 #39
You can stream BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #47
I know, but like this True Blue American Sep 2019 #49
Last night Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #32
tonite at 8 dweller Sep 2019 #43
Episode 7...pretty sure Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #44
yeh this is episode 8 at 8 dweller Sep 2019 #45
Usually ,the one at ten is the same. True Blue American Sep 2019 #50
This ... and BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #29
So far,I think they have spent too much times on those True Blue American Sep 2019 #13
Walker was mentioned I think. n/m El Supremo Sep 2019 #17
Guy Clarke? Bob Loblaw Sep 2019 #34
I thought Burns has done an exceptional job Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #14
He has,it is impossible to cover them all. True Blue American Sep 2019 #18
There was a map of local radio shows. El Supremo Sep 2019 #21
We had great Country Stars here True Blue American Sep 2019 #35
So it's just like his jazz documentary then? nt sweetloukillbot Sep 2019 #23
Same was true of the Burns jazz series, klook Sep 2019 #24
Riders in the Sky yonder Sep 2019 #25
Has Roy Rogers been mentioned? True Blue American Sep 2019 #36
Yes. But... El Supremo Sep 2019 #38
Gene was there before Roy. True Blue American Sep 2019 #41
I have to admit, I liked Gene better! True Blue American Sep 2019 #42
Ditto. BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #48
Dale asked Roy True Blue American Sep 2019 #51
The Louvin Brothers were barely mentioned as well. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #26
Barely mentioned Tanya Tucker ribrepin Sep 2019 #27
Most of those you list here BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #28
They talked about John Denver. True Blue American Sep 2019 #37
Yes, I saw that. True Blue American Sep 2019 #53
finally finished watching tonight... MissLilyBart Sep 2019 #46
Jimmy was shown briefly. True Blue American Sep 2019 #52
Yes! El Supremo Sep 2019 #54
welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2019 #58
Thank you! MissLilyBart Sep 2019 #59
Johnny Paycheck... El Supremo Sep 2019 #57

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
2. John Hartford for one
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 05:50 PM
Sep 2019

I thought Jerry Lee Lewis should have gotten more mention since he did have a string of country hits in the 70s. Agree with a lot of your choices, too.

I thought it has been well done overall. I already know most of the stories, and they’re being told well.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
20. The Dillards
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:10 PM
Sep 2019

The Dillards are notable for being among the first bluegrass groups to have electrified their instruments in the mid-1960s.[5] They are considered to be one of the pioneers of the burgeoning southern California folk rock, country rock and progressive bluegrass genres, and are known to have directly or indirectly influenced artists such as The Eagles, The Byrds, and Elton John.[6] In 1972, The Dillards joined Elton John on his first American tour.[1] John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin has also acknowledged their influence, particularly in his decision to play the mandolin.[7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dillards

Tech

(1,770 posts)
22. Should have included that info. They were excellent musicians. I was a classical trained
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:22 PM
Sep 2019

cellist, and played my cello on a banjo strap on an old time string band, so I could play it like a stand up bass. This was suggested to me by the head of the music department at the university I went to. Interesting to see mountain musicians with cellos in the documentary. I also was really impressed with a fiddle player of a band I went out to see, turned out he was a violinist for the Milwaukee Symphony. So fun to hear about musicians that are fans of so many kinds of music.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
40. Wait. He was shown briefly in episode 6.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 07:20 PM
Sep 2019

When they talked about The Byrds Circle Be Unbroken triple album.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. I noticed the absence of Tennessee Ernie Ford right off. He's on the side in 1 photo, that's it.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 05:58 PM
Sep 2019

I actually paid cash money for one of his albums as a young teen. Loved it.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
39. Had just made sure the DVR
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 07:18 PM
Sep 2019

Was on. I have the series but have not had time to watch them all. Maybe over the weekend, binge.

dweller

(23,628 posts)
43. tonite at 8
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 08:08 PM
Sep 2019

covering 84-96

then another at 10

do you remember which Townes was on? i don't see episode #'s

✌🏼

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
14. I thought Burns has done an exceptional job
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:04 PM
Sep 2019

It's impossible to hit on every single artist and give them all their due, but he has done a masterful job of telling the story of Country Music, real country music, and for that I'm grateful.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
18. He has,it is impossible to cover them all.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:06 PM
Sep 2019

Never mentioned the Midwestern Hayride from Cincinnati. That was huge in this area.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
21. There was a map of local radio shows.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:13 PM
Sep 2019

I think it showed Cincinnati. They talked about the Louisiana Hayride.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
35. We had great Country Stars here
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 07:11 PM
Sep 2019

Bonnie Lou, Charlie Gore, Jumping Kenny Rogers. The Trailhands.one of them was our neighbor and Mailman. He sat on the porch, tuned my 14 year olds guitar.

We were at the Opry the week Roy Acuff was hospitalized. Brother Oswald came out,played the saddest guitar I ever heard. Roy passed that week.

klook

(12,154 posts)
24. Same was true of the Burns jazz series,
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:30 PM
Sep 2019

which conformed to the Wynton Marsalis / Stanley Crouch worldview of jazz as a classical art form with virtually no important new developments since 1961(!).

I was happy to see jazz introduced to new audiences, but boy was that series disappointing to anybody with more than a superficial knowledge of the music.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
41. Gene was there before Roy.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 07:23 PM
Sep 2019

Roy was still Leonard Slye, sitting on his sisters porch across the street from my Great Aunt.

Roy and Trigger are painted on the flood wall. They have a Roy Rogers festival every year. Roy was from Duck Run but Portsmouth claimed him.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
28. Most of those you list here
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 06:47 PM
Sep 2019

have indeed been mentioned. Perhaps not highlighted as some others have been, but at least mentioned and in some cases, given a cameo with some of their music, e.g. Glen Campbell.

I saw episodes 6 & 7 last night and Crystal Gayle, Glen Campbell, Tennessee Ernie and John Denver were all mentioned there, albeit briefly. Denver's mention included footage of this infamous incident: https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-charlie-rich-set-the-country-music-awards-on-fire-40-years-ago

IMO, Burns has done an excellent job, but there are bound to be some omissions which might chafe, especially if they include one's preferred artists.

MissLilyBart

(97 posts)
46. finally finished watching tonight...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:28 PM
Sep 2019

and I thought there should at least have been mentions of

The Highwaymen (an omission that gave a really distorted view of Johnny Cash's later career, methinks)
Jimmy Dean
Doug Kershaw
Alison Krauss
Poco (as pioneering and important as any of the other early country rock acts that were mentioned, IMO)
Gillian Welch and Dave Rawlings
The Eagles (mentioned in passing, but still... *side-eye*) (and I don't even LIKE The Eagles...)
Linda Ronstadt
and the line dancing craze.

Also, I thought not acknowledging the impact T-Bone Burnett's exquisitely curated soundtrack for the Coen Brother's film O Brother Where Art Thou? had on rekindling 'popular culture' awareness of old time music at the turn of the new century was an egregious omission.

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