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Related: About this forumThe Hangmen, "What A Girl Can't Do"
THE HANGMEN
MAY 2, 2007 CHRIS BISHOP
Oldest known pic of the original Hangmen with first bass player Mike (Walters) West
The Hangmen formed at Montgomery Junior College, and included bassist Mike West and rhythm guitarist George Daly. They were joined by fellow students Tom Guernsey and Bob Berberich, whose previous group the Reekers, dispersed when other members went away to college.
Looking for a vocalist, George Daly called the British Embassy asking for someone who was British and could sing! The person he talked to referred him to a girl who could sing, who in turn recommended Dave Ottley, a hairdresser for Vincent Hair Stylists who had been in the U.S. for two years at that time. Variously reported in articles about the Hangmen as being from Liverpool or London, Ottley was actually from Glasgow, Scotland.
In early summer of 65, the bands managers Larry Sealfon and Mike Klavens played What a Girl Cant Do for Fred Foster of Monument Records. Lillian Claiborne graciously released Tom from his contract with her and Foster signed him only Tom as he was the songwriter and leader of the Reekers.
Since Joe Triplett and Mike Henley were committed to college, Tom decided, against his own preferences, to work with the Hangmen as his band. Monument then released the Reekers recordings of What a Girl Cant Do and The Girl Who Faded Away under the Hangmens name, even though only Tom and Bob Berberich had played on them.
Hangmen Monument 45 What a Girl Can't DoSome sources report that the Hangmen rerecorded the The Girl Who Faded Away for the Monument 45. A close listen shows that the Hangmens Monument 45 version uses the same instrumental backing as the Reekers original Edgewood acetate. The vocal track does not match the demo, with different lyrics, but the lead vocalist is the same (Triplett I think). The acetate also runs about 24 seconds longer than the Monument 45.
Confusion also exists about What A Girl Cant Do, but there should be no doubt, the Monument 45 version released under the Hangmens name is actually the Reekers. In 1966 the Hangmen recorded their own version of the song for their LP, which sounds very different.
Arnold Stahl, a lawyer, and Mike Klavans of WTTG formed 427 Enterprises to promote the band. Their connections landed gigs for the Hangmen in embassies and a mention in Newsweek. One memorable event was playing a party for Robert Kennedys family and getting drunk in their kitchen!
Despite these connections, the Hangmen were still primarily a suburban band, playing for kids at parties and shopping malls but not getting into the clubs like the big DC acts like the British Walkers and the Chartbusters. This would change as the Monument 45 of What a Girl Cant Do started gaining momentum locally.
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The Hangmen, May 1966.
What a Girl Cant Do knocked the Beatles We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper out of the top spot of the charts for Arlington radio station WEAM on Feb. 7, 1966. On a national level, though, Monument wasnt doing enough to promote the 45. What a Girl Cant Do remained only a local hit. Their best opportunity had been wasted, but from their perspective as the top band in the D.C. area, success seemed certain.
What a Girl Cant Do at #1 on WEAM Top 40 hits February 7, 1966
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MAY 2, 2007 CHRIS BISHOP
Oldest known pic of the original Hangmen with first bass player Mike (Walters) West
The Hangmen formed at Montgomery Junior College, and included bassist Mike West and rhythm guitarist George Daly. They were joined by fellow students Tom Guernsey and Bob Berberich, whose previous group the Reekers, dispersed when other members went away to college.
Looking for a vocalist, George Daly called the British Embassy asking for someone who was British and could sing! The person he talked to referred him to a girl who could sing, who in turn recommended Dave Ottley, a hairdresser for Vincent Hair Stylists who had been in the U.S. for two years at that time. Variously reported in articles about the Hangmen as being from Liverpool or London, Ottley was actually from Glasgow, Scotland.
In early summer of 65, the bands managers Larry Sealfon and Mike Klavens played What a Girl Cant Do for Fred Foster of Monument Records. Lillian Claiborne graciously released Tom from his contract with her and Foster signed him only Tom as he was the songwriter and leader of the Reekers.
Since Joe Triplett and Mike Henley were committed to college, Tom decided, against his own preferences, to work with the Hangmen as his band. Monument then released the Reekers recordings of What a Girl Cant Do and The Girl Who Faded Away under the Hangmens name, even though only Tom and Bob Berberich had played on them.
Hangmen Monument 45 What a Girl Can't DoSome sources report that the Hangmen rerecorded the The Girl Who Faded Away for the Monument 45. A close listen shows that the Hangmens Monument 45 version uses the same instrumental backing as the Reekers original Edgewood acetate. The vocal track does not match the demo, with different lyrics, but the lead vocalist is the same (Triplett I think). The acetate also runs about 24 seconds longer than the Monument 45.
Confusion also exists about What A Girl Cant Do, but there should be no doubt, the Monument 45 version released under the Hangmens name is actually the Reekers. In 1966 the Hangmen recorded their own version of the song for their LP, which sounds very different.
Arnold Stahl, a lawyer, and Mike Klavans of WTTG formed 427 Enterprises to promote the band. Their connections landed gigs for the Hangmen in embassies and a mention in Newsweek. One memorable event was playing a party for Robert Kennedys family and getting drunk in their kitchen!
Despite these connections, the Hangmen were still primarily a suburban band, playing for kids at parties and shopping malls but not getting into the clubs like the big DC acts like the British Walkers and the Chartbusters. This would change as the Monument 45 of What a Girl Cant Do started gaining momentum locally.
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The Hangmen, May 1966.
What a Girl Cant Do knocked the Beatles We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper out of the top spot of the charts for Arlington radio station WEAM on Feb. 7, 1966. On a national level, though, Monument wasnt doing enough to promote the 45. What a Girl Cant Do remained only a local hit. Their best opportunity had been wasted, but from their perspective as the top band in the D.C. area, success seemed certain.
What a Girl Cant Do at #1 on WEAM Top 40 hits February 7, 1966
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The Hangmen (The Reekers)- What A Girl Can`t Do
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"Written and produced by Tom Guernsey, the song was recorded by The Reekers (vocals: Joe Triplet, guitar: Tom Guernsey, piano: Mike Henley, drums: Bob Berberich, bass: Mike Griffin. This version (there were many) became the #1 record in D.C., Maryland, and Virginia in February,1967 under the name of The Hangmen."
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The Hangmen, "What A Girl Can't Do" (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Jan 2020
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(67,443 posts)1. bought that 45 when was living in falls church va. not a hit beyond the DC area nt
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(57,621 posts)2. Were you part of the riot?
THE HANGMEN
MAY 2, 2007 CHRIS BISHOP
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MAY 2, 2007 CHRIS BISHOP
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Billboard, 2/19/66: Hangmen Cause Swingalong
FALLS CHURCH, Va. Jack Shaver, owner of Giant Record Shop, said last week a mob of teen-agers turned out to hear The Hangmen (4) and when police cleared the store because the crowd created a fire hazard a near-riot ensued.
Shaver said browser bins and display cases were smashed and two girls and a boy fainted during the chaos. He said damage was estimated at $500.
Shaver said The Hangmen are from the nearby Washington area and are local favorites. He said he had sold about 2,500 copies of their single, What a Girl Cant Do, on Monument, and it was No. 1 on local charts.
He said school was out that day because of snow and the store began filling up at noon for the 4 p.m. show. He estimated 400 were jammed and packed inside and some 1,500 were outside.
Shaver said traffic was snarled, police came, declared the gathering a fire hazard and began clearing the store. He said The Hangmen had been playing 15 minutes at the time and it took half an hour to disperse the crowd.
Shaver said he had had record stars perform at his store before, including Johnny Rivers, Johnny Tillotson, Peter and Gordon, and Ramsey Lewis, but they never created anything like this.
He said he did not have insurance to cover the loss.