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Adobe's Black Friday deal on Photoshop and Lightroom (Original Post) ManiacJoe Nov 2013 OP
I don't mean to rain on your thread, but there are some things folks should be aware of Major Nikon Nov 2013 #1
Yup. Lots of software are moving in the direction of subscription services. ManiacJoe Nov 2013 #2
Yep. I'm on CS4 and I refuse to upgrade to the cloud subscription service. NV Whino Nov 2013 #3
Well I think Stevenmarc Nov 2013 #4
I'm not knocking anyone who goes that route Major Nikon Nov 2013 #5
All reasons that I use GIMP groundloop Nov 2013 #10
I'll be OK with CS5 for a while Major Nikon Nov 2013 #11
I won't upgrade either Mz Pip Dec 2013 #13
Huge security breach at Adobe. alfredo Nov 2013 #6
and after 12 months its no longer 9.99 rdking647 Nov 2013 #7
Price increases are always a possibility. ManiacJoe Nov 2013 #9
The big question I have… regnaD kciN Nov 2013 #12
Asking again only here....has anyone here upgraded to Mavericks and has CS5 Extended? glinda Nov 2013 #8
I'm sticking with my old tried and true PaintShop Pro Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #14
PSP is a good option. ManiacJoe Dec 2013 #15
I've got X4 Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #16
I was upgrading from X3. ManiacJoe Dec 2013 #17

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
1. I don't mean to rain on your thread, but there are some things folks should be aware of
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:25 AM
Nov 2013

Photoshop is now a subscription service, which means instead of buying a copy of the software and you own it forever, you must now send money to Adobe every month. If you stop sending them money, you loose access to your software. Personally I think this is a dangerous precedent in software development, but that's just my $0.02 worth. I have been a loyal customer of photoshop for many years. I have CS5 and refuse to upgrade. When and if I do upgrade, I will go with a competing product. Just last month Adobe was hacked and 38 million of their subscription service customers' credit card info was compromised. Hackers also stole Adobe's source code and encryption data which means future customers could also be compromised via Coldfusion's vulnerabilities.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/04/1243992/-Adobe-Hacked-Source-Code-and-Data-for-2-9-Million-Customers-Stolen

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
3. Yep. I'm on CS4 and I refuse to upgrade to the cloud subscription service.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 10:57 AM
Nov 2013

Plenty of other photo programs out there, but I'm stuck for the moment for Illustrator. I think Pages will cover InDesign.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
4. Well I think
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 01:44 PM
Nov 2013

If someone hasn't figured out that it's a subscription plan when they see it's $9.99 a month then just wait till they have to figure out Photoshop.

The fact is that like it or not it's the industry standard and staying current is important if you are working in this field. I've found the whole cloud model to be very convenient, being able to move effortlessly between devices is a serious time saver.

As far as that persnickety glitch goes, well we all go through thousands of electronic transactions a year with varying degrees of vulnerability, PS is an important part of my workflow so in this case pragmatism wins out.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. I'm not knocking anyone who goes that route
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 02:13 PM
Nov 2013

The fact that there is a steep learning curve to Photoshop should give some pause as they will be beholden to Adobe who will be able to raise that price at will once the contract runs out (and undoubtedly will). For those who upgrade every time and who want to work inside the cloud, it can make a lot of sense, but for many amateurs it means that you've just hitched your wagon to Adobe's team for better or worse. I see it as Adobe using their near monopoly position to bait people to be reeled in later. As far as the vulnerabilities are concerned, they extend beyond just your transactions. It can also open you up to malicious code in ways that people may not have considered.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
10. All reasons that I use GIMP
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 06:37 PM
Nov 2013

For the most part, I think, GIMP is nearly as capable as Photoshop. There are a few things that Photoshop does better, but for the modest price of FREE I can live with GIMP's shortcomings. I'm not a professional, don't need to process hundreds of photos in a day (not very often anyway), and GIMP more than meets my needs.

I was actually considering making the move to Photoshop from GIMP a while ago, but when I heard about their change to a monthly subscription service I decided against it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. I'll be OK with CS5 for a while
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:26 PM
Nov 2013

But GIMP seems like the way to go when I do change. Perhaps this will create more demand for competing products so who knows what the future will bring. I think Adobe is making a big mistake, but maybe they have it all figured out.

Mz Pip

(27,448 posts)
13. I won't upgrade either
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

I have CS5 and feel I have barely scratched the surface of its capabilities. It serves me well on what I like to do and I see no point in doing this subscription plan.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
6. Huge security breach at Adobe.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 01:52 PM
Nov 2013
Adobe has admitted that it is taking significantly longer than it expected to email all of the customers affected by the epic-scale security breach, with some victims still not being contacted more than 10 weeks after the data theft. Despite discovering the attack on September 17, Adobe did not go public with the information until October 3, with the company still having not informed all affected customers two full months after the breach.




Read more: http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/11/25/up.to.138.million.adobe.cc.accounts.violated.by.data.breach/#ixzz2lm7xtIvN

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
12. The big question I have…
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 11:27 PM
Nov 2013

…is: how much did the PS/LR subscription cost for people without a prior copy of PS before this deal? Is there any reason to believe that that won't be the "new" price after the twelve months of the deal are over?

glinda

(14,807 posts)
8. Asking again only here....has anyone here upgraded to Mavericks and has CS5 Extended?
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:50 PM
Nov 2013

I asked on Mac Group but want to hear form more people on this and problems encountered. Some say you cannot use CS5Extened with Mavericks and some say you can.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
16. I've got X4
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 07:56 PM
Dec 2013

Do you notice anything particularly new and exciting? I debated whether to upgrade with that $29.99 special.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
17. I was upgrading from X3.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:29 PM
Dec 2013

X6 is now 64-bit if you have that OS. It seems still hit-or-miss with which Photoshop plug-ins work and which don't.

The PSP file format changed in X4, more notable for me than you.

I read something somewhere that convinced me to upgrade last month, but I don't remember what it was, besides the good price.

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