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fly eye macro (Original Post) rdking647 Sep 2019 OP
Oh my,.. magicarpet Sep 2019 #1
This is way better than decent! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2019 #2
Looks a little near sighted to me. 3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #3
SPECTACULAR! Callalily Sep 2019 #4
What lens did you use? alfredo Sep 2019 #5
i have a 10 year old tamrom 180mm macro rdking647 Sep 2019 #6
My first love was a Tamron 80250 with a Spotmatic attached to it. alfredo Sep 2019 #10
At high magnification ratios the working distance is almost nothing Major Nikon Sep 2019 #7
I use a ring light when I don't forget it. alfredo Sep 2019 #11
Ring lights are good for technical, not so much for creative Major Nikon Sep 2019 #12
I take the ring light off the lens and aim it where it works best. alfredo Sep 2019 #16
You can use a normal strobe for that Major Nikon Sep 2019 #19
I just go with what I have until I spring for a good flash. alfredo Sep 2019 #20
I have 4 "good" flashes and a number of less capable ones Major Nikon Sep 2019 #22
thats why only part of the eye is in focus rdking647 Sep 2019 #13
Many aspects of optics change dramatically in macro Major Nikon Sep 2019 #15
I've used a reverse ring some times. I use it with my Yashinon DX 50mm 1.7. alfredo Sep 2019 #17
There's lots of ways to do it Major Nikon Sep 2019 #18
The reverse ring is handy in that you can just flip it around and you have a normal lens. alfredo Sep 2019 #21
There's ways in which you can get extremely high magnification ratios using lens reversals Major Nikon Sep 2019 #23
I'm a cheapskate on SSI. alfredo Sep 2019 #24
Amazing! mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #8
That is frickin' awesome! CrispyQ Sep 2019 #9
maybe a foot rdking647 Sep 2019 #14

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
10. My first love was a Tamron 80250 with a Spotmatic attached to it.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:52 AM
Sep 2019

I still have a soft spot in my heart for Pentax.

I have used the Olympus 40~150 with extension tubes. I love that the zoom becomes the focus ring.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. At high magnification ratios the working distance is almost nothing
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:35 PM
Sep 2019

Short macros can have some of the best optics and they tend to be much cheaper, but for nature photography they are pretty much useless beyond about 1:2 magnification. If you are photographing objects sometimes you can get down to 1:1 and beyond, but working distance is measured in mm rather than inches which can make the lighting tricky.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. Ring lights are good for technical, not so much for creative
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:33 PM
Sep 2019

They tend to produce very flat lighting. So they work great for taking photos of dental work. Not so much for insects and flowers.

With close focusing you generally want to use the narrowest aperture setting that will produce a sharp image. Another problem is with a short working distance, blocking ambient light becomes a real issue. This makes supplemental lighting very handy, if not essential in some situations. Personally I don’t like ring lights. I prefer to use a bracket that holds two strobes if I’m hand holding and trying to capture a moving subject. For fixed subjects I’ll use strobes and light stands.

So I absolutely love my Nikkor 55mm macro for a number of reasons, but the big limitation with a short macro is working distance at high magnification which is a good thing to be aware of depending on how you want to use it.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
16. I take the ring light off the lens and aim it where it works best.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:17 PM
Sep 2019

I don't get so close, I'd rather pull back a bit and crop.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. You can use a normal strobe for that
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:29 PM
Sep 2019

In fact even a very cheap strobe that only does manual settings will work just fine.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
20. I just go with what I have until I spring for a good flash.
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:45 AM
Sep 2019

One thing I like about the ring light is it can strobe or provide constant light. Sure makes for more reliable outcomes.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. I have 4 "good" flashes and a number of less capable ones
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 01:38 AM
Sep 2019

However as far as macro goes, that extra capability is mostly wasted since manual mode works better and even the Chinese strobes you can buy on the cheap work in manual mode. Pretty much all digital cameras have a histogram which works far better than any flash meter you can buy.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
15. Many aspects of optics change dramatically in macro
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:19 PM
Sep 2019

It’s not so much the optics themselves change, but rather our techniques. F/16 becomes the standard aperture for most macro, while much less often otherwise. The lens focus barrel becomes an adjustment for magnification, while actual focus is controlled by moving the entire camera in or out.

For moving subjects, I’m never able to achieve much better than 1:2 magnification. I set the lens focus to that magnification (my lens is manual focus only), and I use one or two strobes mounted to a bracket fixed to the camera. The strobes are set to manual mode because the lens to subject distance never changes, and I just move the camera in and out to focus. It takes a few tries to get a useable image, but otherwise works quite well.

With stationary subjects, you can do whatever magnification ratios your equipment allows and most serious macro people will use a focusing rail.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
18. There's lots of ways to do it
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:27 PM
Sep 2019

Diopter filters are one way. Extension tubes are another. A true macro lens provides a number of advantages, not the least of which are close range correction for aberrations that tend to soften the corners when a normal lens focuses closely.

My Nikon 55mm macro will do only 1:2 magnification natively, but you can put it on extension tubes and get even better than 2:1. However the working distance gets so short the lens is almost touching the subject.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
23. There's ways in which you can get extremely high magnification ratios using lens reversals
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 01:45 AM
Sep 2019

So it definitely works. There’s a few practical drawbacks that are solved by using a normal macro lens.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
9. That is frickin' awesome!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:32 AM
Sep 2019

~insert blue ribbon smilie here

How far away were you? Or did you sit perfectly still until the fly approached?

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