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StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 12:34 PM Sep 2021

Birds, Bees, and Butterflies

We live in the north valley and although they are waning, this year we have had a bumper crop of butterflies. I particularly love the black ones. A lot of bees this year too. Now we have to be on the lookout for Africanized bees as well as mosquitoes due to the increase in the West Nile Virus. As if Covid isn't enough. Oh, yeah, Valley Fever too. On top of that has anybody noticed more dead birds than usual? We had three dead doves in our yard within three days. What's with that? Are they eating seeds tainted with Glyphosate or Paraquat?


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Birds, Bees, and Butterflies (Original Post) StarryNite Sep 2021 OP
birds are carriers of West Nile Kali Sep 2021 #1
I planted my zinnias late. StarryNite Sep 2021 #4
found this from G and F Kali Sep 2021 #2
Thank you for this. StarryNite Sep 2021 #3
they are non-native and kind of like friendly flying mice Kali Sep 2021 #5
True, they are non-native...but still. StarryNite Sep 2021 #6
I saw several of those earlier in the ChazII Sep 2021 #7
I don't see them often but I love it when I do. StarryNite Oct 2021 #8
I remember when they started showing up Kali Oct 2021 #9
They are so pretty and loud! StarryNite Oct 2021 #10
Up to 5 found dead in my yard so far... StarryNite Oct 2021 #11

Kali

(55,007 posts)
1. birds are carriers of West Nile
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:17 PM
Sep 2021

jays and crows get sick and die, I don't know about doves in particular

zinnias are butterfly magnets! mine are covered all day with them.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
4. I planted my zinnias late.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:57 PM
Sep 2021

Just as they are beginning to bloom the butterflies are not nearly as plentiful. Go figure.

I read about jays and crows getting West Nile. I never see jays. Occasionally I see ravens which are also corvids and susceptible to the virus.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
2. found this from G and F
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:35 PM
Sep 2021
Virus affects Eurasian collared doves

Almost every year, a virus that affects Eurasian collared doves resurfaces in Arizona. The virus does not threaten human health and affects only this non-native dove species. As a result, you may find dead Eurasian doves on your property. Please dispose of them by wrapping them and putting them in the trash. Do not bury them.

To help stop the virus from spreading, please clean your bird feeder and bird bath regularly.


also avian botulism, which mostly affects water fowl, but doves do drink at ponds and lakes

https://azgfd-portal-wordpress-pantheon.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/archive/Avian-Botulism-2020.pdf

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
3. Thank you for this.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:52 PM
Sep 2021

They were collared doves. I disposed of them correctly. All three are in plastic bags in the garbage. Poor things.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
5. they are non-native and kind of like friendly flying mice
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 02:44 PM
Sep 2021

always plenty of them around, don't worry too much.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
6. True, they are non-native...but still.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sep 2021

I guess it's nature's way of keeping the population in check.

More non-natives that I am wild about.

Fred and Ethel

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
7. I saw several of those earlier in the
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:22 PM
Sep 2021

year but I have not seen them recently. The first time I saw one I though someone pet had flown from its cage.

I am enjoying our cooler weather today.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
8. I don't see them often but I love it when I do.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:51 PM
Oct 2021

Still getting cooler weather, fall is in the air. My favorite time of year.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
9. I remember when they started showing up
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:27 PM
Oct 2021

early 80s, about the time I left the valley for Tucson. my sister has a ton of them visiting her desert yard in north Tempe.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
10. They are so pretty and loud!
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 06:33 PM
Oct 2021

It's their sound that gets my attention because it's so different from any of the native birds.

Wild parrots can be spotted in Phoenix neighborhoods

By: Jason VolentinePosted at 10:01 PM, Apr 03, 2018 and last updated 1:59 PM, Apr 04, 2018

Excerpts:

Clark has been tracking lovebird colonies on his website since the 90s.

He said the colonies were most likely started by two big lovebird releases in the 80s. One was an aviary in Apache Junction that released around 100 birds when it was destroyed by a monsoon.

Clark said the other was an aviary in the North Valley where the owner simply threw open the doors when he decided he didn't want the birds anymore.

~snip~

"They are all over Scottsdale. They are all over central Phoenix, and now they're all over Ahwatukee," Clark said.

Technically, they're an invasive species Clark said it's okay to enjoy them because they don't seem to bother the native birds.


[link:https://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/wild-parrots-can-be-spotted-in-phoenix-neighborhoods|

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
11. Up to 5 found dead in my yard so far...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 06:37 PM
Oct 2021

I dumped the big birdbath, cleaned, bleached, and put it on the ground empty. But the next morning they were coming for drinks. I felt so bad for them. I put water in two small birdbaths. They are a breeze to clean compared to the big one.

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