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TexasTowelie

(112,289 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:10 AM Mar 2019

Court Says Jury Can't Strip Mongols Biker Club Of Its Trademarked Logo

The Los Angeles-based Mongols motorcycle club will not be stripped of its trademarked logo any time soon, after a federal judge essentially overruled a jury's decision to deprive the group of its collective symbol.

U.S. District Judge David O. Carter in Santa Ana said Thursday that the jury ruling violated club members' 1st Amendment rights to free association and expression and their 8th Amendment protection against excessive penalties.

"It is beyond question that the Government has a legitimate interest in attacking the economic roots of a criminal organization like the Mongol Nation," Carter wrote in his 51-page ruling. But he said forcing the club to forfeit its rights associated with the symbol the group has used since 1969 "is unjustified and grossly disproportionate."

In January, a jury, in a first-of-its kind verdict, agreed with federal prosecutors to strip the Mongols of the logo – an image of a goateed Genghis Khan-like figure wearing sunglasses and a ponytail riding a chopper, below the club name. Prosecutors argued that the Mongols are a criminal gang and their logo is central to their outlaw identity which "they wear like armor."

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2019/02/28/699199078/court-says-jury-can-t-strip-mongols-biker-club-of-its-trademarked-logo

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Court Says Jury Can't Strip Mongols Biker Club Of Its Trademarked Logo (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2019 OP
if the mongols are an ongoing criminal enterprise rampartc Mar 2019 #1
If the courts removed the trademark status of the emblem... ret5hd Mar 2019 #3
Bizarre Decision HopeAgain Mar 2019 #2
Constitutional Protection ROB-ROX Mar 2019 #4

rampartc

(5,425 posts)
1. if the mongols are an ongoing criminal enterprise
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:36 AM
Mar 2019

perhaps depriving them of their gang identity is beneficial to society?

ret5hd

(20,501 posts)
3. If the courts removed the trademark status of the emblem...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:49 AM
Mar 2019

would you wear a t-shirt with the emblem to a bar? A park?

Nothing would stop them from continuing to use the emblem, but the emblem would be available (legally speaking) for anyone to use.
You gonna do it?

Yeah, me either.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
4. Constitutional Protection
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:10 PM
Mar 2019

If the judge had not stopped this weird issue, then the next step would be to attack OTHER symbols or words. Freedom of speech was our founding father's favorite because under English rule there were no personal RIGHTS. A battle was won but the war is NOT over.........Nice going JUDGE......"Here Comes The Judge, Here Comes The Judge......."

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