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daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:12 PM Sep 2014

Social Services Retaliation in Oakland, CA

This is cross-posted from General Discussion. Someone originally questioned it as a conspiracy theory, so I want to state up front that this post records a direct action taken by Social Services, not a "theory". Social Services registers welfare recipients for Medi-Cal in California: they do not determine eligibility, but they can apparently slip you into a "denied" category that cuts you off from all Medi-Cal services. This factually happened to me.

Of course you can call my interpretation of the motivation of a "theory", so please hit me with your alternative interpretations as to why my Social Services case worker wandered over to his computer and switched my Medi-Cal status to "denied" at this time when I am raising a huge fuss about Social Services - including a matter that could have been mitigated if my case worker had bothered to return phone calls from his clients.

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For the last few weeks I've been tryng to raise awareness of how Oakland's Welfare policy punishes work, undermines housing, and is, in sum a convoluted mess that drives people to homelessness instead of doing anything to help them. And I've been calling out the politicians who are doing nothing about it by name.

Today I got my first taste of Social Services retaliation. They kicked me out of the Medi-Cal system. I had to cancel medical appts and I can't refill my meds. A clinical trial I was trying to enroll in is at risk because it relies on imaging done exactly a year ago. I may have to cancel the regularly scheduled injections that were saving my eye sight. I wonder if I will get DTs from the gap in my meds before this is fixed.

I also wonder how else Social Services plans to give me a "hard time".

Bastards.

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Social Services Retaliation in Oakland, CA (Original Post) daredtowork Sep 2014 OP
Damn, Dared, I'm sorry to hear that. Hope it gets corrected soon... petronius Sep 2014 #1
Thanks :) daredtowork Sep 2014 #2
Would it be helpful to you to make your troubles known to a local tv journalist TheDebbieDee Sep 2014 #3
I'm not ready for that daredtowork Sep 2014 #4
Google Gloria Allred, the attorney. Then call her office. truedelphi Sep 2014 #5
Not against the Democratic Establishment daredtowork Sep 2014 #6
Waiting 4 Hours for a Bus Ticket daredtowork Sep 2014 #7
Just Realized My CPAP Machine Is From Medi-Cal daredtowork Sep 2014 #8
Today I was going to tell a medical clinic social worker about my Medi-Cal problems... daredtowork Sep 2014 #9
Just Remembered a Medi-Cal Appeal Deadline that Will go By daredtowork Sep 2014 #10
Update for anyone who is interested daredtowork Sep 2014 #11
Medi-Cal Restored! - But Wait, It's Not...=.= daredtowork Oct 2014 #12
It's amazing, isn't it, how automated systems seem to catch on within milliseconds when petronius Oct 2014 #13
I was told I was lucky(!) daredtowork Oct 2014 #14
Ongoing Fallout daredtowork Oct 2014 #15
57 minute hold time daredtowork Oct 2014 #16
The Continuing Saga: For Anyone Interested daredtowork Oct 2014 #17

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
2. Thanks :)
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:31 PM
Sep 2014

Right now I'm just holding on and staring at my Topiramate bottle with 5 pills left in it and wondering what is going to happen next. O.o

But on the bright side, it's yet another opportunity for me to bring up what Social Services in Oakland is doing, or rather failing to do - and how these policies need to change YESTERDAY!!!! And how the political representatives in the area are generally clueless about the whole thing.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
3. Would it be helpful to you to make your troubles known to a local tv journalist
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:39 PM
Sep 2014

Or consumer advocate? Did you try that already?

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
4. I'm not ready for that
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:27 PM
Sep 2014

There are a few reasons.

The first is kind of cynical. I'm white, close to middle-aged, overweight. Not cute like "bat kid". Not on anyone's political selling point agenda. Not "good optics". I think my picture would actually work against any cause, raising questions about what a white woman is doing there. Or, worse, people would start speculating on whether my medical problem is "diabetes from life style choices" (no on both counts) instead of paying attention to the political issue at hand. That just seems to be what happens to women. They are the complainers who get lampooned in the press, men are the political actors. I'd rather try to stay anonymous and let the issues speak as long as I can.

Also, I had a bad experience with this before. Something I did was misrepresented by the media, and there wasn't very much I could do about it since my story wasn't the one the media was interested in at the time, and that had ongoing consequences for me. One TV journalist seemed very nice, joked to me about how his wife read the same books that I did, and proceeded to splice my interview replies with different questions. As a result, I don't trust journalists: I feel they use "personal stories" to get their job done, but then they don't care what happens to the people afterward. I just tried to comment about that a bit lately in regard to the celebration of people coming forward on wage theft. Those people will be found on Google as trouble-makers forever: they are labor heroes, but will they be able to ever get a job to support their families again? No one will care after this media cycle ends.

Even if the journalist is initially sympathetic instead of one of those trying to be all "objective" at your expense, you become a public figure the minute you're in the media: that means another journalist with different interests - say to praise Oakland and bolster the re-election campaign of Mayor Jean Quan - will find ways to paint me in negative ways - someone who is crazy or the epitome of a "welfare queen" living in Berkeley. Is that what I need when I'm trying to get off welfare and look for work?

I have all these things to think about. :-/

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
5. Google Gloria Allred, the attorney. Then call her office.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 04:14 PM
Sep 2014

Someone told me that she is quite active in helping people that are dealing with nightmare provisions at work inside our secret governemnt of agencies that can deny deny deny.

If she won't help, go to the Social Services office and get the form that allows you to simply sue them. I have sued the Welfare system twice, once about three years ago. I won both times.

Once you file the parperwork for a hearing inside the agency's "court," a hearing will be scheduled. It will all depend on the judge you get, but since they come from a different area than the one you live in, they don't care about stepping on the footsies of whatever precious little social worker who denied you.

On edit: it might be a while before Allred gets back to you, so possibly get in there and get the paperwork for a hearing. There is also legal aid, that the Social Workers have to tell you about. Legal Aid in Marin helped me win my case against Social services back in the 1980's.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
6. Not against the Democratic Establishment
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 07:31 PM
Sep 2014

As far as I know, Gloria is a strong supporter of the current political establishment and her lawsuits tend to be "political activism".

I'm surprised to hear about anyone suing the welfare system that doesn't make it into the news much. Could you PM me with the details of that? Or when you say get the form to sue them do you mean file an appeal? I've already done that. And I followed up with some strongly worded phone calls today. Planned visit to the Advocate of the Day tomorrow.

Berkeley has many great resources to help people in situations like mine. I feel very lucky to live here, and at the minute I'm feeling a bit like I'm over-utilizing those resources since I keep turning up with new problems, and they have many clients to help!

What makes me angry is Oakland Social Services has essentially turned these mostly-volunteer nonprofits into an arm of the bureaucracy. When something changes, no matter what that something is, Social Services defaults to stopping all the different programs. Then the volunteer agencies have to support the confused welfare recipient - whose fragile life has been thrown into yet more chaos over this - to deal with all these stoppages one program at a time...until 4 months later when Social Services makes some error this time, and it happens all over again.

If these stoppages are automatic, the appeal/response has to be automatic too. At least Social Services workers get a salary (albeit not a great one) and a pension. Volunteers get jack for bringing the required response to their B.S. stoppages.

I wish Gloria Allred would get into this. But I can't see her saying boo to Jerry Brown. She basically got him elected with undocumentedworkergate.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
7. Waiting 4 Hours for a Bus Ticket
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:16 PM
Sep 2014

Still haven't heard anything regarding my Medi-Cal situation, so I was advised to follow up a phone call to the supervisor of my caseworker with a visit to Social Services. There are few things I hate more to do in the world. It's dreary. It's over-crowded. You have to stand in line an hour just to take a number. Guards illegally tell you that you can't get disability accommodation unless it's granted by your caseworker - and then it will only be granted if you have friends or relatives that will accompany you to Social Services.

I was told to attempt to see the "Advocate of the Day". Of course the "Advocate of the Day" wasn't in today. Because I'd had to front the bus money, I didn't want to leave without bus ticket home. I was told I couldn't get bus tickets without seeing a social worker. Actually the guards weren't going to tell me that much, but I was being stubborn about it. I didn't see why I had to pay follow up on the fact my phone calls weren't being returned or that my Medi-Cal had been illegally cancelled, endangering my health in some rather immedate ways.

So I got in line to take a number to see a social worker. As a person with mobility problems, this really sucks.

After a 4 hour wait, I got to see a person at the window who entered my info into a system and refused to give me a receipt for the visit.

Then she said she couldn't give me the bus tickets. It turned out she wasn't a social worker, even though I had been told when I took a number that I was indeed going to see the "Social Worker of the Day".

Since I insisted, I got to take a seat again and wait until I was called. Since it was getting toward closing time, I didn't have to wait another 4 hours. The Social Worker of the Day initially didn't understand my request for bus tickets: Oakland does not give out packets of public transportation money to people. But after explained (a couple of times) that I just wanted the ticker for a ride home. The way she had trouble grasping this initially makes me wonder once again whether it's just ingrained in Oakland Social Services that people on General Assistance have "alternative" sources of income. Otherwise, how was I going to get home? There was no transportation subsidy - she just gave me that lecture herself. I didn't get any direct cash income from General Assistance, and she knew I was on G.A.

Soooo. Why WOULDN'T I wait 4 hours for a bus ticket home?

There is either a super secret form of welfare that every else gets except me or Oakland, in a very corrupt way, EXPECTS me to go right outside and start "making it on the side" somehow.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
8. Just Realized My CPAP Machine Is From Medi-Cal
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:21 PM
Sep 2014

No one has called to take back my CPAP machine yet. I wonder if I'm going to be billed for it somehow during this "gap" in coverage. Or whether there is going to be a big bureaucratic run-around in which I'm going to have to try to get Social Services to pay for the specific period in which I was not covered.

The Social Worker of the Day I saw yesterday was not encouraging about when the matter will be settled.

This makes me realize that whenever I get my Medi-Cal coverage back, I'll still have to go through a lot of red tape: I'll need to update the pharmacist and the contact the referral specialist (to get the referrals on hold re-started again), and I suppose I will have to re-confirm all upcoming appointments that were linked to my Medi-Cal coverage. *sigh*

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
9. Today I was going to tell a medical clinic social worker about my Medi-Cal problems...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:20 AM
Sep 2014

I had been seeing a social worker every 2-3 weeks because of all the problems I have with social programs and bureaucracy...

So I had a major issue to discuss at my appointment today: my Medi-Cal cancellation still isn't resolved. I dragged myself to the clinic, anyway.

When I got there, I was given a clipboard of demographic qualifying data to fill out. At the end it said the Social Workers were on a sliding scale fee, the lowest of which was $45. The person who gave me the clipboard started to say something about how they wouldn't come after me if I couldn't pay it. I didn't want to deal with it though: things had become too complicated at that point. I have no credit problems, and I didn't want to risk any.

To summarize: when I lost Medi-Cal, I didn't revert to my old Alameda County coverage. When I lost Medi-Cal, I lost coverage for the social worker - the person who is there to help people in situations like mine.

Also this is another example of maximum bureaucracy shifting downward onto the person who is already under the most stress.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
10. Just Remembered a Medi-Cal Appeal Deadline that Will go By
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 11:35 AM
Sep 2014

My doctor had referred me to a pain management clinic back in June because I can't take standard pain relievers. After inquiring a few times about what happened to this referral, I finally got a letter from Medi-Cal in August. They denied the referral based on the idea the service is available "within my network". I find that sadly hilarious because not only is the service not available in my network, the referral was intended to save the State money by giving me alternatives to narcotic - thus keeping me awake, potentially employable, and non-addicted.

By the time I got the denial letter, I was in the middle of shifting to a new primary care doctor, and there were other shifting factors, so I needed a new appointment to get this Medi-Cal denial addressed.

So if Medi-Cal's deadline passes, would I have to start all over again and have to wait a couple months for them to make the denial in the first place? Or is the clock on hold while I'm out of their system and/or don't have access to the doctor to pursue this?

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
11. Update for anyone who is interested
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:21 AM
Sep 2014

Today I redid my Medi-Cal renewal application.

The reason my name does not exist in the Medi-Cal database is that I was in a special group of people in the county health plan who were automatically shifted onto Medi-Cal to avoid delays in January. The renewal process was the first time where I applied for myself, and that was the point at which Social Services would enter my group into their Medi-Cal database.

My medical clinic was all over helping with the renewal application process and mine was submitted a couple of months ago.

However, my case worker did not process my application. For whatever reasons he didn't, nothing happens to him because he didn't. There is no incentive for him to process my application. There is no consequence for him not doing so. Neither he nor his manager have responded to inquiries as to what happened to my application. Non-response is normal for Social Services. When I went down there in person all I could do is ask the Social Worker of the Day to email the supervisor reiterating my request.

So today my advocate helped me fill out another renewal application. This will once again go to my case worker. He still has no incentive to process it. There is still no consequence if he does not. We are just doing it this way because it would be the fastest way to solve the problem. Also, this time the Social Services appeals unit knows about this second renewal application. They can't force my case worker to do anything. However, if he doesn't do anything, they are able to take over the process themselves. The only problem is if it has to be done that way, the time frame is something like 30 days.

So if anyone wants to know what the chink in the armor of "mandated" health coverage for the poor is: it's that Social Services can just not process you for Medi-Cal, and there's not much anyone can do about it. And there's no "back up" coverage in the mean time.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
12. Medi-Cal Restored! - But Wait, It's Not...=.=
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:54 PM
Oct 2014

This morning Social Services called to tell me Medi-Cal was finally restored. Interesting how that finally happened the day after there was a very speedy October court date assigned to this issue.

I spent half this morning making calls to restore appointments. Just now I called the pharmacy to see if my medications were there. I saved that for last since I would have to go out to pick up the meds, and I don't have a cellphone, so I wouldn't be able to take care of the other business.

Then the other shoe dropped.

Medi-Cal may be fixed, but in California, Medi-Cal is managed by HMOs. There are many layers of "system" here. Once Medi-Cal was cut off, all those database entries became "invalid". I now have to wait for the Medi-Cal processing to catch up with each system. Apparently the HMO is now in my ball court to deal with. I'm wondering how many of the phone calls I made this morning I'm going to have to re-make when the various billing departments discover my HMO ID number is "invalid".

I'm not sure if we're talking about days or weeks of processing here.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
13. It's amazing, isn't it, how automated systems seem to catch on within milliseconds when
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:13 PM
Oct 2014

a person becomes ineligible for something - but it takes those same systems hours/days/weeks to realize when an eligibility is restored or a mistake corrected...

Congratulations on the bit of progress, anyway!

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
14. I was told I was lucky(!)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:13 PM
Oct 2014

I spent all morning being bounced around between my pharmacy, my medical clinic, and the HMO managing the Medi-Cal billing.

After a 47 minute hold time, I was able to reach a very nice lady at the HMO: she was able to make the pharmacy computer billing "expiration" problem a priority, and she thinks it could be resolved by tomorrow. The scary thing she told me was that I was lucky that the pharmacy system was the only system that had hit "the bucket". If the other numbers had hit a certain expiration date before the Medi-Cal problem had been resolved (and apparently it was a very close call), I would have had to start all over with the eligibility/re-assignment process at the HMO. In other words, it would have indeed taken another 2-3 months to get this resolved.

I would be looking at something a lot worse than just a one month "gap" in medical coverage if I had not happened to have had a doctor's appointment on Sept. 2, enabling me to find out immediately that something was wrong.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
15. Ongoing Fallout
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:58 AM
Oct 2014

I now have Medi-Cal back, and I've cycled back up to the right dosage of all my medications. I'm already feeling better, though it will take time for some of it to build back up in my system.

The last few days have been a hell of bureaucratic time suck. After going back and forth between the pharmacy and my medical clinic about why I couldn't get my meds, I had to go to call the HMO that administers Medi-Cal (Alameda Alliance). That's around a 45 minute call wait time. But I eventually got that fixed.

Then I immediately rescheduled my eye injections that had had to be skipped because of the Medi-Cal disaster. But I realized that there wasn't enough run-up time to arrange for a ride through Alameda Alliance. I really need a ride home after this particular appointment. This ride situation is already unnecessarily and absurdly bureaucratic - it involves calling Alameda Alliance and going through their time-consuming procedure, and then calling Paratransit and going through their procedure, observing two separate arrangement time windows. Anyway, I realized I couldn't meet the time window for Alameda Alliance, so I called to ask if I could get some emergency consideration.

At that point I found that my profile had been thrown out all together because of the Medi-Cal situation, and it would take 24 hours to put back together. So it was a good thing I had called the Rides number to discover that. But they couldn't help me with the emergency situation - I had to call the Alameda Alliance customer service number for that. Dang another 45 minute wait.

I initially had bad luck with the customer service number because the person I talked to couldn't seem to fit my situation into her worldview and was checking my story against her rehearsed reasons to order paratransit. Then she wandered away and left me on hold for 20 minutes. After I asked to talk to her supervisor, she found out that it was possible to offer me an emergency ride. She took all the information for it. She said the ride (paratransit or a cab) would show up on the day of my appointment, and I didn't have to do anything else. She took a super long time to take down my information. Dealing with all this took all morning and the better part of the afternoon. I had to skip a morning appointment, and a lot of other stuff got juggled to take care of this.

By the way, that appointment was today. The ride did not show up. When I called the Rides number, they said it wasn't in their database. By the time I started to get worried, there was no point in calling the Alameda Alliance customer service number because their wait time is 45 minutes, and the appointment was in half an hour. I waited for my ride until the time of the appointment and then I call the ophthalmology office to explain what happened. Luckily they said I could come in late if I could make it in an hour and a half. That was an iffy prospect that depended on buses coming exactly when I needed them. However bus karma was with me, and I got there on time.

After the injection, no ride home showed up either. I had asked the staff to keep an eye out since I was so late. If we could get the name of the company involved - whether it was paratransit or a cab - at least we could request that they come back later. But no one ever came for me. After the injection I went across the street to what proved to be a very nice donut shop. I used my bus money to buy a cup of coffee and waited there 4 hours for my eyes to heal. Tomorrow I expect to talk to Alameda Alliance again, after a 45 minute wait time. The bus/coffee money spent here would normally have gone to pay my phone bill, so this screwed me up in a lot of ways.

Medi-Cal immediately denied one of my referrals, so I have to go through the hassle of rounding up doctors and trying to figure out the language that needs to be used. Grr.

Also, there was the whole odyssey of getting a therapist. This hasn't been high on my priority list. The social workers at my medical clinic have wanted me to see a therapist because my life is obviously overloaded with bullshit and they think crisis counseling would help. Perhaps it would, but it's also one more appointment in a life filled with too many damned appointments. Because I was ambivalent already, I waded through the bureaucratic obstacles very slowly. The outside contracting firm that manages "behavioral health services" for Alameda Alliance features yet more long phone wait times. And half the time when I call them, I get some real estate company instead. First this consulting firm kept bouncing back the referrals from my medical clinic. Then they made me go through "screening" multiple times. And there is some confusion caused because they have 2 profiles for me in their system. And after all that, all they do is list random therapists in my area. I'm the one who has to call them and play phone tag with them. Half of them don't have open slots even though they are listed in the system as accepting new patients. I don't have a cellphone, so I'm hard to reach by phone during the day if I have to go out for appointments - because of this it had taken my months to arrange for a first appointment with a therapist. My first appointment was in September. It had to be rescheduled because of the Medi-Cal debacle.

When I tried to reschedule that first therapist appointment, it turned out that the Medi-Cal problem had affected my status in this Behavioral Health system, too. When the therapist called to check on my Medi-Cal status, they insisted that I call to go through "screening" yet again! I called, went through the phone wait time, and boy when I got on the phone was I ever an irate customer! The people seeking therapy services are presumably already under a lot of stress. To continually put them through this bureaucratic process is ridiculous. I actually prevailed on this one. They agreed just to call my clinic and expedite doing whatever was best for me, and to reactivate me in their database.

I also had second thoughts 5 minutes into the appointment when I was presented with a notice that said a $70 fee would be charged if I missed an appointment and Medi-Cal doesn't pay for that. Fascinating how that one piece of paper just put my issue with the whole system in a nutshell.

So this has been my week. Unraveling one long continuous bureaucratic clusterfrak. Because I don't have a cellphone, I've had to stay at home most of the time. I've had to call a number of places with unreasonably long phone wait times. Not just Alameda Alliance. Also my medical clinic appointment line, social services, the scheduler line for that referral before it was rejected. Another annoying factor has been that the alerts for my Yahoo email stopped working. Because I don't have a cellphone, I refer people to email to get most of my business done. Yahoo alerts allow me to respond to that email instantly. But now that the alerts are down, I have to just keep checking for new email. I tried calling email for help. After a TWO HOUR wait time, the person I spoke to filed a ticket for me, and I haven't heard anything since. Anyway, I've just been on the phone all week trying to get the broken stuff fixed.

Is this summary of my week tl;dr? That's exactly how I feel.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
16. 57 minute hold time
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:29 PM
Oct 2014

To talk to Alameda Alliance Member Services about being abandoned after my eye injections yesterday.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
17. The Continuing Saga: For Anyone Interested
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 03:32 PM
Oct 2014

One of the medical referrals that was on hold during the time I was off Medi-Cal was denied by Alameda Alliance (the Medi-Cal managing HMO). The denial was oddly worded (involving the word "Cancer", which I don't have) - and I thought I made a mistake getting it through midwife rather than my primary care physician (because it was faster to get an appt with the midwife. Since the referral had also been discussed with my primary care physician during a later appt (right after I got Medi-Cal back), I asked if it could be redone. The medical clinic said no, I would have to appeal the existing Alameda Alliance decision).

Thinking that I would just have to fill out some paperwork explaining why I needed to go out of network for this particular procedure, I went through the Denial packet to proceed with the appeal. Then I just about lost it.

An "appeal" means going to a Hearing with Social Services. They advise you to try to get a lawyer with Bay Area Legal Aid. That's an hour plus wait on the phone (try it) - and I very much doubt they would represent me for something like this, which means I'd be on my own dealing with Social Services yet again - all their hassle, all their stressful and intimidating letters, all the time it takes to go through their process while the chance to get this procedure (via a clinical trial) goes away.

I have just been through 2 months of dealing with Social Services Appeals/Hearings brinksmanship. I had to Appeal separately to get back Food Stamps, General Assistance, and Medi-Cal just because I tried to do a little work and legally reported it (see my sig). I have been through an unimaginable hell/torture of time-consuming, stressful, intimidating bureaucracy and red tape - all this while off my medication and deprived of access to any medical care for the month of September. The last couple of weeks of October have been a further hell/torture of trying to deal with the consequences of what Social Services did to me.

And now Alameda Alliance wants me to go through this again?!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!

I wrote an email to my medical clinic (in response to the email they sent me advising me that I would have to deal with the Appeal myself) to explain in no uncertain terms that I needed them to find another way. I explained all the above circumstances. Since I am a low key person who often doesn't get her problems addressed because I don't speak loudly or firmly enough, I made it clear I was serious. Ready to break out the protest signs and stop traffic in front of City Hall serious. For once they had to actually *solve the problem* for me.

Instead they called and offered to refer to counseling. I admit I broke down and cried, because to me this is the signal that no one hears me. Counseling does nothing for me. Counseling does not solve the problem. What I need is for someone to hear what the problem is and address it.

Anyway, because I broke down over the phone, the medical clinic sent the POLICE(!!!!!!!!) in the full view of my neighbors to come check on me. The police discovered I was fine. They gave me a their card and left. All my remaining trust in the medical clinic dissolved as well.

It would be nice if for once people just did stuff to help me deal with these bureaucratic problems that are always being heaped upon me, instead of heaping yet more bureaucratic problems. I do not need therapy to give me a "new perspective" on the problems. I certainly don't need the POLICE to haul me off to medical containment or whatever they were planning on doing should I have looked at them the wrong way. What I need is for someone to recognize that it is wrong to keep doing this crap to me and take some sort of action to do something about it.

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