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In It to Win It

(8,261 posts)
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:48 PM May 2023

Florida turns red: Can Democrats make a comeback?

Florida turns red: Can Democrats make a comeback?


It was less than a day after the 2012 presidential election and Florida Republicans were already suffering from a particularly painful post-election hangover.

The state GOP had outspent the Florida Democratic Party by a 3-to-1 margin, while Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney had visited the state nearly 40 times — far more than then-President Barack Obama.

Yet Obama still came out on top, eking out a narrow 1-point victory that earned him Florida’s 29 electoral votes and helped propel him to a second term in the White House. The details of that win were even more alarming for Republicans.

Florida’s politically influential Cuban community, which had favored Republicans for decades, split its vote almost evenly between Romney and Obama, according to exit polling at the time. The GOP had even gone as far as to hold its 2012 national convention in Tampa in an effort to show its commitment to the state.

For Democrats, it was a momentous occasion; a show of how discipline, data and long-term organizing efforts could win over even the toughest and most expensive of battleground states.

“The feeling was that Democrats had picked the Republican lock on Florida,” recalled Fernand Amandi, a Miami-based Democratic pollster who helped Obama win the state in 2008 and 2012. “Almost like a video game cheat code.”
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Florida turns red: Can Democrats make a comeback? (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2023 OP
Yes...... Lovie777 May 2023 #1
If Wisconsin can claw back slowly... NCDem47 May 2023 #2
One problem I see TheRealNorth May 2023 #3
Then, of course, snowybirdie May 2023 #6
From some of the age/party affiliation data I have seen TheRealNorth May 2023 #13
I think it will be very difficult. Florida seems to have been named the epicenter RKP5637 May 2023 #7
Well, it's up to everyone else, the state doesn't pick up on this stuff themselves. carpetbagger May 2023 #11
Tough one awesomerwb1 May 2023 #4
Michigan clawed back, Wisconsin clawed backed. Biophilic May 2023 #5
I have lived here most of my life and very active in Dem party I don't see it turning around in any FloridaBlues May 2023 #8
That seems like a realistic assessment to me. BigmanPigman May 2023 #10
Yes, Democrats can and will make a comeback! anciano May 2023 #9
Only with a superstar. carpetbagger May 2023 #12

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
3. One problem I see
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:07 PM
May 2023

All the Conservative and Boomers and X'rs retiring down there.

I just want to ensure when they move down there, they are not casting ballots in their original home state as well.

snowybirdie

(5,231 posts)
6. Then, of course,
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:52 PM
May 2023

are all the retirees and old farts who marched in the 60s against the war back in the day.....

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
13. From some of the age/party affiliation data I have seen
Sat May 20, 2023, 09:36 PM
May 2023

It was pretty much only those that were 18-19 around 1968 and '69 that break a little blue. The rest of the boomers (and X'rs >50 ) break red.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
7. I think it will be very difficult. Florida seems to have been named the epicenter
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:36 PM
May 2023

for MAGA. And the people loving that are flowing in. Florida has changed drastically.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
4. Tough one
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:12 PM
May 2023

Latinos are more conservative there, plus an endless supply of MAGA retirees. Maybe in a couple of generations.

Biophilic

(3,674 posts)
5. Michigan clawed back, Wisconsin clawed backed.
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:12 PM
May 2023

But I admit Florida is pretty deeply wallowing the gop and fascist fantasy. However I have hopes the DeSantis has gone so deeply into the fascist quagmire that some people are going to take notice. We just need a decent spark.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
8. I have lived here most of my life and very active in Dem party I don't see it turning around in any
Fri May 19, 2023, 05:39 PM
May 2023

Major way for years. Perhaps small victories but no major turnaround esp not 2024. I ran for the state house and it is an up hill battle. Obama win here was a Florida long ago too many red hats moved here since than.
But that won’t stop us from trying.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
10. That seems like a realistic assessment to me.
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:15 PM
May 2023

You have my respect for continuing to fight the up hill battle. It will take a long time for this to turn around, I'm afraid.

anciano

(997 posts)
9. Yes, Democrats can and will make a comeback!
Fri May 19, 2023, 06:09 PM
May 2023

Hope is alive and well. The tide will turn. "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" -- Pres. Calvin Coolidge

carpetbagger

(4,391 posts)
12. Only with a superstar.
Sat May 20, 2023, 02:54 PM
May 2023

Shaq. Dwayne Wade. Grant Hill.

It starts there, and with any luck a few Dem terms will start to mitigate the damage.

It will likely remain a Republican-leaning state for the rest of my lifetime (I'm 53).

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