Poll: Do you approve of ICE activities related to illegal immigrants?

[UpInArms]

https://www.kmaland.com/do-you-approve-of-ice-activities-related-to-illegal-immigrants/poll_3bf66419-be9f-4a5a-9a60-7549d3581927.html

[ZDU]

1. RW talking point? "Illegal" is offensive

Please reconsider using inflammatory terms to describe people who may be undocumented residents.

[UpInArms]

2. I merely used the poll question

I am not using “talking points”

[ZDU]

3. I feel you employed right-wing framing and talking points

I fully understand that it is easy to 'cut and paste' content

[Abstractartist]

4. I agree

I agree with the op, this term was a direct reference in the poll question.

[Scrivener7]

5. The purpose of this is to get people to vote against ICE.

The OP has nothing to do with the verbiage.

Go vote no in the poll.

[ZDU]

6. Thank you, I respectfully disagree

It is my belief that the term 'Illegal' is frequently employed by the rightwing media as a divisive term to manufacture hate

[Scrivener7]

7. You do you, buddy.

[ZDU]

8. Thank you, Scrivener7

I appreciate the liberty and freedom offered.
Please consider:
https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/05/opinion/garcia-illegal-immigrants
https://www.apstylebook.com/blog_posts/1
https://www.raceforward.org/sites/default/files/DTIW_update_WhyDrop4.pdf

[Envirogal]

9. Why are is "illegal" offensive.

When many themselves will say they are here illegally? I am being genuine when I ask this. That has never made sense worrying about the semantics.

Alien is actually the offensive word because it dehumanizes and indicates they don’t belong. But being in this country illegally doesn’t seem like a terrible word and it’s always bothered me that my side gets so offended..

What this administration is doing by going after non-violent people with no criminal record (or very minor) is outrageous and anti-Christian and un-American. Especially those that are obeying the law through the proper protocol of immigration requirements (asylum, appearing at their hearings, being documented, etc?) is merely Steven Miller’s sick attempt to whiten this country and punish blue states.

That is what is offensive. The poll from my home state still has 40% in favor of this tyrannical policy after everything they have seen since Dear Leader invaded the streets of Los Angeles. This is not just offensive but it’s a cancer that conservatives created.

[ZDU]

10. I will not argue

Please employ the search engine (DuckDuckGo, Google, etc.) of your choice: Is the term "illegal" considered offensive?

[Envirogal]

15. Riddle me this...

Please define what is undocumented and how a person becomes undocumented?

You don’t want to argue this, even though I’m being sincere and wanted to know why you personally were so offended not what Google says. You obviously have a very strong opinion of this since you made such a point in this thread.

[ZDU]

20. I trust you are wise Envirogal

Best regards

[mike_c]

11. it is completely legal to come to the U.S. for asylum

Most southern migrants are legal asylum seekers. Calling them illegals is indeed a right wing talking point so ubiquitous that it's broadly accepted as true, demonstrating that if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it without question.

If they were indeed illegal, there would be no reason to imprison them-- they could be deported under removal orders in short order. There would be no reason to offer them bribes to "self deport" ahead of any potential removal order, or to hold them until removal orders can be obtained. Under previous admins, asylum seekers were regularly given aid and immigration hearing orders by CBP, then released (because they're not illegal).

[ZDU]

13. Thank you, mike_c!

Your input is greatly appreciated!

[Scrivener7]

12. It's a shame this got hijacked. I hope people are hitting the link and voting against ICE.

I think if people see their opinion is not shared by the majority, it puts a chink in their faith in that opinion.

Especially maga kinds of people.

[ZDU]

14. USA hijacked by MAGA... agreed

Good one, Scrivener7

[Scrivener7]

16. No. I'm saying this thread, which could have done something useful, was hijacked.

As you obviously know.

[ZDU]

17. Accusations

[Scrivener7]

18. So you DO know that's what you did. Thanks for the confirmation. Not sure what your

game is here.

[ZDU]

19. Respectful disagreement

Is allowed, yes?