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TexasTowelie

(112,157 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:17 AM Jul 2018

Gov. Murphy To Sign Bill Banning Smoking At New Jersey Public Beaches, Parks

TRENTON (CBS/AP) — Smokers will no longer be able to light up on a public beach at the Jersey Shore. Gov. Phil Murphy will sign legislation on Friday banning smoking at public beaches and parks.

Last month, state Assembly and Senate committees advanced bills to ban smoking at public beaches, except for designated smoking areas comprising 15 percent or less of the beach. Smokers would be allowed to light up in parking lots, too.

Fines for violators would start at $250 for a first offense and reach $1,000 for a third offense.

“Its time has come,” said Assemblyman Vince Mazzeo, a southern New Jersey Democrat. “We know the ill-effects of smoking and secondhand smoke.”

Read more: https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/07/19/gov-murphy-to-sign-bill-banning-smoking-at-new-jersey-public-beaches-parks/

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Gov. Murphy To Sign Bill Banning Smoking At New Jersey Public Beaches, Parks (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2018 OP
I suppose it raises money, people actually smoke at the beach? populistdriven Jul 2018 #1
Yes, people smoke on the beach. 3Hotdogs Jul 2018 #4
I find this 'danger' premise silly myself ... all our data on 2nd hand smoke comes from 'houses' ... mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #2
I hope this catches on everywhere . Fullduplexxx Jul 2018 #3

populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
1. I suppose it raises money, people actually smoke at the beach?
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:31 AM
Jul 2018

42 States have higher rates of smoking than NJ
Utah 1 8.8%
California 2 11.0%
Hawaii 3 13.1%
Connecticut 4 13.3%
Massachusetts 5 13.6%
Maryland 6 13.7%
Washington 7 13.9%
New Jersey 8 14.0%

https://www.americashealthrankings.org/explore/annual/measure/Smoking/state/NJ

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
4. Yes, people smoke on the beach.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:57 AM
Jul 2018

The clean-up is costly.

At annual volunteer clean-ups, filters are the singular, most common item collected. This would not be at municipal beaches which have professional cleaning. Rather, at estuary points where slobs put their fishing lines in the water and throw the cig. butts on the beach.

Plastic bottles come in second.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. I find this 'danger' premise silly myself ... all our data on 2nd hand smoke comes from 'houses' ...
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:35 AM
Jul 2018

Like, wives living for 30 years in enclosed houses with husbands who smoke like chimneys. That's completely different than what is involved in this situation.

I would bet any amount that science has got little to nothing in the way of epidemiological data re: people getting some occasional whiffs of smoke in windy, open to the world, outdoor spaces.

I mean, from a 'it's a smelly nuisance, I just don't wanna smell smoke, and I don't want my kids breathing it' standpoint, okay. I totally get that argument. But just be real about it.

No way there's demonstrable evidence that people are actually 'harmed' from a few occasional whiffs of smoke, out on a wide open beach.

I'd submit that if 'smoke' was THAT dangerous to bystanders on a beach? Then any actual 'smoker', who's consuming like 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 TIMES more 'molecules of smoke' than a 'second-hand smoker on the beach' ... in an average year ... would drop dead within a year of taking up the habit.

From a 'public health' standpoint, proper air and water pollution is orders of magnitude more dangerous in our everyday lives. Unless you live in a house with a smoker, who smokes inside, I mean.

This is really more about something being a smelly nuisance, and because there's kids at the beach and 'we don't like it' ... lets just be real, that's all I'm sayin.

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