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The Indy Endorses Hillary ???!!! (Original Post) marions ghost Mar 2016 OP
notice that Bob Geary said good-bye last week zazen Mar 2016 #1
Ah ha marions ghost Mar 2016 #2
Wow. Very disappointed to see this. Going to vote for Bernie today! mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #3
Yeah this hurts marions ghost Mar 2016 #4
Endorsements Hillary Clinton Is Democrats’ Best Bet to Keep the White House riversedge Mar 2016 #5
OK I see, "woman president" marions ghost Mar 2016 #6
Editorial staff favored Sanders unc70 Mar 2016 #7
Thanks for insight marions ghost Mar 2016 #8
I may be in the minority BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #9
OK marions ghost Mar 2016 #10
My husband and I both IGNORED The Indy's endorsement and voted Bernie today mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #11
I certainly plan to do the same marions ghost Mar 2016 #12
Yeah, I noticed that while doing my election day homework today.... retrowire Mar 2016 #13
With ya on that marions ghost Mar 2016 #14

zazen

(2,978 posts)
1. notice that Bob Geary said good-bye last week
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:55 AM
Mar 2016

I haven't checked in with him but I assume people aren't very happy with the new leadership.

I thought their cute little aside about the "super delegate putting her thumb on the scale" was really offensive and tone-deaf. So political intimidation is now funny at the Independent?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
4. Yeah this hurts
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:12 AM
Mar 2016

I won't be taking the rest of their endorsements at face value that's for sure.

Bernie

riversedge

(70,222 posts)
5. Endorsements Hillary Clinton Is Democrats’ Best Bet to Keep the White House
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:14 AM
Mar 2016


March 2, 2016

Indy Week, NC: Endorsements: Hillary Clinton Is Democrats’ Best Bet to Keep the White House

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/your-participation-is-mandatory-the-indys-2016-primary-endorsements/Content?oid=4998377&storyPage=2





..........................What's more, Clinton has an unrivaled grasp on the nitty-gritty of policy, especially foreign policy. Put simply, she's studied harder for this test than any candidate on either side of the aisle. Just as important: Clinton's resilient. She's endured endless personal criticisms and half-cocked investigations and contrived pseudoscandals—remember the time Republicans "investigated" whether she murdered Vincent Foster?—and lived to tell the tale. ...................


..................But beyond those demerits, the thing that stands out about Hillary Clinton is that she's a grinder, a scrapper—a pragmatist who looks to nudge the ball forward and lock in progressive gains. And that's what this election is about: protecting the Affordable Care Act, protecting existing social programs, and filling vacancies on the Supreme Court.

In our view, Clinton is best positioned to both win the White House and, once there, move the needle ever-so-slightly in the right direction.

And, yeah, while we think the world of Bernie, it's about time we had a woman in charge.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
6. OK I see, "woman president"
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:26 AM
Mar 2016

is the number one reason for the Indy endorsement. On all the other positive descriptors in this article I could plug in "Sanders."

She will "move the needle ever so slightly in the right direction"....wow what a statement! Ever so slightly as to be imperceptible.

I have come to the conclusion myself that as much as I would like to see a woman president--that cannot be the main factor at this critical time. We need real change. I strongly disagree with her candidacy for many reasons, not the least of which is that I don't believe she can beat Trump. She has too much baggage and will bring out the R vote in full force.

But thanks for posting riversedge. I appreciate your excerpt from the article.

unc70

(6,114 posts)
7. Editorial staff favored Sanders
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders 3-2, counting one leaning Sanders. Made me wonder who actually made the decision, particularly putting that foll page picture of Clinton on the front cover. Strange.

The Indy is not what it used to be, in coverage of issues or of the arts.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
8. Thanks for insight
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:12 AM
Mar 2016

--still trying to understand how this could have happened. At the very least I think they could have split the picture in half with Sanders--and called it an editorial tie. 50-50

Would like to know what went on in that decision. The Indy has big influence around here re election endorsements. No, it's certainly NOT what it used to be.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
10. OK
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

but it seems reactionary given the Indy's strong liberal track record, and the local milieu. There is new editorial leadership apparently. I think it's reflective of that change.

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
11. My husband and I both IGNORED The Indy's endorsement and voted Bernie today
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

in the first day of early voting for the primary. We will be traveling on March 15th and no way we weren't having our votes count
in this primary.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
12. I certainly plan to do the same
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:39 PM
Mar 2016
And I hope the Indy doesn't sway anybody who's undecided at this point --I can't imagine there are many of those. It's more what it says about the Indy -- really obnoxious move at this point in the game.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
13. Yeah, I noticed that while doing my election day homework today....
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:46 AM
Mar 2016

But they also endorsed Trump so.. that says a lot...

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/your-participation-is-mandatory-the-indys-2016-primary-endorsements/Content?oid=4998377&storyPage=3

I don't care if they think it's funny to endorse Trump because they're doing it out of spite. They say the GOP deserves him. Well yeah, but let's take politics seriously for a second and not fucking put his name up front then.

The Indy was such a great liberal source... But if they were smart, they'd just outright ignore giving Trump and fucking headlines. He's got enough headlines.

So again, I don't care if they think they're being cute or funny with that "endorsement". They really shouldn't be joking, considering how seriously fucked up a Trump presidency would be.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
14. With ya on that
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:16 AM
Mar 2016

this game is deadly serious.

So just make the point that the R party deserves him, Indy, without endorsing him.

Some people just don't get it. These are dangerous times.

Thx for your post.

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