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Related: About this forumOklahoma man doing target practice in his backyard accused of fatally shooting woman blocks away
An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks from his home, authorities said.
Cody Wayne Adams, 33, has been charged with first-degree manslaughter in connection with the deadly shooting, court filings show.
The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon, according to the probable cause affidavit. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a love seat when she was struck in her right upper arm, according to the affidavit. The bullet then entered her chest cavity, it said.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-man-target-practice-backyard-accused-fatally-shooting/story?id=128707327
marble falls
(70,593 posts)... required for a license to cut hair.
Orrex
(66,618 posts)marble falls
(70,593 posts)... Back in the day when NRA wasn't a personal piggy bank for it's officers and it had a mission beyond politics, they actually promoted firearm safety. They had firearm safety classes, and when I was fourteen or fifteen back in the early sixties, had the safety courses after school. My wife got firearms instruction when she worked for CIA, and never carried one on duty. I got further instruction in the Navy. I don't know anyone who carries now, concealed or open, that got any more instruction past "squeeze, don't pull" and a few hours on lawful carry.
I don't own firearms any more, my concern is that if that tool is in the box, I might find a need for it. And I don't need that tool.
AverageOldGuy
(3,289 posts)I remember when the NRA was about:
1. Firearms safety
2. Conservation
3. Marksmanship and safety training
I guess none of those topics brings in the $$$$
marble falls
(70,593 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,170 posts)She gave it to him when I wasn't around, of course. When I found it in a bag of gifts from my in-laws I questioned my husband about it. He said it was for him from his sister. I was F*ING LIVID!!! I told him I was going to get her a dildo next Christmas. She wants to gift something that is completely against our values, I'll gift something that is against hers. He said he'd give the gift certificate back to her. Good idea, I told him.
marble falls
(70,593 posts)... family (when the BiL family wasn't around) as Stormin' Norman and the other five except for two daughter were almost as bad.
Auggie
(32,831 posts)A conviction for first-degree manslaughter in Oklahoma carries severe consequences. Under 21 O.S. 715, the law mandates a minimum prison sentence of four years, but judges have discretion to impose significantly harsher penalties depending on the circumstances.
Since first-degree manslaughter is classified as a felony, those convicted face long-term incarceration in the Oklahoma Department of Corrections rather than county jail. Sentencing often depends on aggravating or mitigating factors such as the level of recklessness involved, prior criminal history, and whether the defendant accepted responsibility.
Beyond imprisonment, a conviction results in the permanent loss of firearm rights under Oklahoma Statutes Title 21, Section 1283, which prohibits felons from possessing or purchasing firearms.
Additionally, individuals convicted of first-degree manslaughter may face substantial fines, though Oklahoma law does not specify a set maximum, leaving financial penalties to the courts discretion. Restitution is also a possibility, requiring the defendant to compensate the victims family for funeral costs and other financial losses.
A felony conviction has lasting consequences beyond sentencing. Under 57 O.S. 582, individuals convicted of violent crimes in Oklahoma must register with the states violent offender registry, affecting housing and employment opportunities.
Furthermore, the conviction cannot be expunged under 22 O.S. 18, meaning it remains on the defendants record indefinitely. This creates long-term difficulties in securing jobs, professional licenses, and even certain government benefits.
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Link sounds as if Adams admitted responsibility, so a defense seems doubtful. But a minimum four-years in prison seems inadequate. Shooting a gun in a neighborhood backyard is insanely reckless.
twodogsbarking
(17,510 posts)The shooter used a pistol in a residential area. He just got home from deer humting with a rifle. Despite breaking numerous laws he got off. Just a misuderstanding. This is America. Guns mean more than, well, people. Deal with it. There will be no improvement.
Auggie
(32,831 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,510 posts)Old Crank
(6,621 posts)Every gun crime should mean prison and permanent loss of gun privileges.
That includes adults leaving weapons around like party favors for children to access.
usonian
(23,352 posts)Who hasn't done pushups because of someone else's fuckup?

People might watch out for each other for a change.
Trueblue Texan
(4,170 posts)Jughead
(122 posts)A federal gun permit must be the requirement and a lengthy safety course before issuing a permit. Too many states have zero gun laws.
Diamond_Dog
(39,668 posts)If that bullet had been on a different path even millimeters off
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multigraincracker
(36,865 posts)Even the most trained group, cops, shot cops more than any other group.
multigraincracker
(36,865 posts)Not mentioned by gun rights activists.
NJCher
(42,346 posts)Didnt know that!
multigraincracker
(36,865 posts)His hand was in a cast. I asked what happened and he said he shot himself while cleaning his pistol. Then he told me he was an NRA gun safety instructor. Said he made a mistake and was lucky it didnt kill him.
No one is safe, firearms are dangerous.
NJCher
(42,346 posts)Truth of the matter is, America is very primitive in a lot of ways.
Squaredeal
(707 posts)In a state that restricts most hunting by firearms to shotguns, due to the states population density, one can still legally target shoot with a high-powered semi-automatic weapon on private property, in a residential neighborhood, even up to a neighbors property line, with no distance restrictions to the neighbors private residence, as long as the shooter is using some sort of berm to stop the bullets. Many municipalities have their own ordinances prohibiting or restricting this practice, but others dont. My town doesnt have any restrictions and no one has been shot this way, so far. Where I live, all have been due to domestic violence, with the wife usually on the receiving end, while the husband was typically cleaning a loaded firearm in the house, in the middle of the night, etc.
NJCher
(42,346 posts)We have a DU-er who is a NJ lawyer who works for saner gun laws.
I think what you describe is crazy. I have fools for neighbors who pay leaf blowers to blast every leaf to kingdom come, but at least I dont have shooters.
The name of the DU-er is PepsiDog.
Tribetime
(7,031 posts)I got some idiot near my house.That's blowing off hundreds of rounds of target practice every Sunday.You can hear it through the whole city.I'm sick of it
They should make the price of bullets a $1000.Apiece, then maybe they wouldn't be so haphazard.With the bullets
NJCher
(42,346 posts)Were elderly, baby, and loveseat.
Dont sit on a loveseat loving on a baby in America.
The consequences could be death.
SergeStorms
(19,916 posts)"target" shooting in a residential area.
John1956PA
(4,743 posts)I know very little about firearms. However, from what I understand, a "Glock 45" fires 9mm bullets (approximately 0.35 caliber). The article reports the seized weapon was loaded with eight, then ten, rounds of 0.45 ammunition. To my understanding, it is not possible to fire 0.45 caliber rounds with a Glock 45.
It is a horrible tragedy. The bullet struck the right arm of the woman, then it entered her chest cavity. It is very fortunate that the child, which the woman was holding in her left, arm was not struck.
JohnnyRingo
(20,439 posts)The editor who typed up the story knows even less than you about firearms and assumed the 45 meant caliber.
The distinguishing quality of the model 45 is that it's shorter and easily concealed. He won't have to worry about that anymore.
rurallib
(64,529 posts)Espoir
(19 posts)My husband was startled by bullets whizzing through the woods near our garage when the neighbor was shooting target practice off his back deck (about 5 years ago). We contacted the Sheriff who "talked to" the neighbor but nothing was done -- supposedly in the semi-rural area where I live (2.5 acres lots), it's not illegal. Or if it is, it's tolerated. It was close enough that it chipped the bark off the tree my husband was standing next to. We're a strange country.
UpInArms
(53,983 posts)Never ever once having two brain cells communicating
Shooting a Red Bull can
JohnnyRingo
(20,439 posts)Certainly one that could have been avoided if he used common sense safety rules by not shooting in a residential area. He seemed contrite when he was taken into custody.
The headline sounds too much like he was a kook who wanted to kill someone.
When a deputy said he suspected the shooting may have caused the victim's death, Adams "became visibly upset and began to cry," the affidavit stated. The deputy also told him that "while he was shooting towards the ground in his backyard that there was nothing behind his property to stop any bullets from traveling beyond his property and hurting someone," the affidavit stated. Adams' home is located approximately 0.3 miles away from the residence where the woman was shot, based on the addresses included in the affidavit.
AverageOldGuy
(3,289 posts). . . back in 1951 when I was 7, my grandfather gave me a single-shot .22-cal rifle for Christmas and a box of bullets.
I distinctly remember a warning on the box to the effect that these bullets can travel up to one mile, be careful, or something like that.
Linda ladeewolf
(1,093 posts)Perhaps, we need to start some gun groups that are more inline with our beliefs. These accidents didnt happen nearly so frequently when actual safety classes were taught. People can be taught how to safely own firearms. This occurrence in my opinion was stupidity and not an accident. The NRA is completely useless now thats it simply a Russian supported entity. Just like other movements though the gun fanatic group could be co-opted by us. With more guns than population it would be easier than trying to get rid of them completely and for now more effective.
Grim Chieftain
(1,156 posts)Elderly woman shot and killed on a front porch with family members while holding a baby on Christmas Day. My god.
Those poor people will carry this tragedy with them forever.
AverageOldGuy
(3,289 posts)I may be mistaken but I think the "Glock 45" is a small 9mm pistol, not .45 cal, though it may come in .45. But here's the best/worst part.
Pistols are considered close range weapons -- out to about 25-50 yards.
HOWEVER: A 9mm pistol's range varies: the 9mm round maximum travel can exceed a mile, but its effective range for hitting targets is much shorter, typically 25-50 yards for average shooters, extending to 100+ yards for skilled marksmen, with combat effectiveness usually around 50 yards. So -- that bullet can travel out to a mile where it has enough velocity to cause serious damage if it hits a target just right.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,476 posts)I am glad that this idiot is being prosecuted