I have been unable to post on DU until9:36AM. I sent the Administration a question about why I have

[DhhD]

BEEN BLOCKED as the time was up at 8:07 last night. I was immediately release when I went to an administrator to ask why? I would like to ask all of you to read the down thread statement that I made about the fact that the shirt was alright to wear. Privacy is an issue for in the school environment. And it is for me in when I am at a malt shop or anywhere else.

It is My Belief, having nearly 40 years of public education experience, that the word lesbian, is a come-on to voyeurs. I believe that voyeurs went to high school? I believe that recruitment of all kinds (drugs etc.) occurs in schools, especially a high school? Perhaps some on you on DU would like to look into why the TX Legislature had to make a law concerning Sexting at public school campuses. Perhaps some of you would like to look into why some campuses scramble social media web sites like Face Book! I am especially asking those who alerted and/or voted to hide on the jury to look into how this measure protects children at school. It is Mu Belief that there are trolls in DU who exploit the protection of children because the feel minimized on their sexuality. Perhaps some of you feel that it is OK for this girl and her shirt to be sent out on Social Media via a cell phone. I think it is dangerous.

[Warren Stupidity]

1. Obviously the admins made a mistake.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. What?

You've spent 40 years in public education, and you're talking in sentence fragments, putting question marks after declarative statements, using incorrect verb tenses, randomly capitalizing nouns in the middle of sentences, and misspelling words?

All of those issues make it much harder to understand what you're actually trying to say, but I'm vaguely understanding that you disapprove of people advertising their sexual orientation on their clothing, especially in public schools?

I can see that schools might have issues with such, since sex is a distracting sort of thing during your raging hormone years, and schools don't like students having extra distractions when they're trying to teach. But I don't think 'voyeurs' are the issue in that case.

[DhhD]

5. Yes it is true that a lot of people like myself are coming out of the closet with their dyslexia or

or Specific Disabilities. Forgive me but I have learned how to draw out bully attitudes so I can keep an eye on the sociology of my classes. Perhaps you might to look into the new Texas Legistature Anti-Bullying Laws.

Psychology is a duty of a classroom teacher and all educators; we wear lots of hats. By the way, less estrogen means clear thinking. Females have learned that a side effect of birth control pill helps them decide against being exploited by patriarcial societies. I would suggest that you browse for the benefit of less estrogen. Testosterone breaks down to estrogen in men as they age. Men need their V hormone (can't spell it) to counter-act testosterone in the younger days. Perhaps you might want to study brain development of your males as testosterone sets in.

In my opinion some like to exploit people with disabilities as well as writing about their ignorance of tremendous cell phone use at pubic schools school. It seems to me that you would not understand me and much less understand the need of a free appropriate public education for children with special needs at a public school.

I do not feel the need to run spell check again especiallay since it does not work sometimes.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

8. Thanks, but no thanks.

Even though i now notice this is posted in the 'Texas' group, I have no interest in going to Texas, so I really don't care to learn about their anti-bullying laws.

You're right, I can't understand you. You talk about anti-bullying, then spend an entire paragraph sneering at men? Nope, never could understand passive aggressive hypocrisy.

[glowing]

3. You may be more comfortable over at the other site www.discussionist.com .. there are more people

who may agree with you and write and understand in similar manners... Just a thought

[DhhD]

11. Thanks. TX DU is a group. The sociology is very interesting. We are all unique and have a wealth

of experiences, wisdom, and intelligences to draw from. Over the years we work with thousands of people, each with their own personality and behaviors. Bring it on.

[LostOne4Ever]

4. I am the one who sent the alert

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[font color=teal face=papyrus size=3]Here are the Jury results:[/font]

On Fri Oct 31, 2014, 06:28 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Children need love and attention. The parent or guardian would be notified
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1078&pid=21780

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

This person is conflating homosexuality with pedophilia. This is not only hurtful, rude, insensitive, over the top, but is a far far far right homophobic talking point.

Please let this poster know that comments like this are NOT acceptable on DU.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:07 PM, and voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: "Beer and alcohol shirts are not allowed. Porn shirts are not allowed. Cannibalism and gutting shirts are not allowed. Drug sales shirts are not allowed." This mook is comparing a "Lesbian" shirt to those?!
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: and also cannibalism, gutting, and drug-dealing! (beer and porn I will concede)
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Seems an ill advised comment too easily taken the wrong way.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you.

[font color=teal face=papyrus size=3]Not only did 5 jury members agree with me that it was offensive, two of them said that my alert did not go far enough. [/font]

It is My Belief, having nearly 40 years of public education experience, that the word lesbian, is a come-on to voyeurs. I believe that voyeurs went to high school?

[font color=teal face=papyrus size=3]Just about anything is a come on to voyeurs.

This does not make it right to conflate homosexuality with sexual predators. That is a far far right talking point smear against the LGBTQ community. It is that rationale that cause homophobes to ATTACK AND BEAT LGBTQ people and feel no remorse for it.

Being a lesbian is not lewd or anything to be ashamed of.

Homosexuality, is not just about sex. No more so than heterosexuality is just about sex. What you said was horribly bigoted and the DU community agreed with me. Honestly, I am surprised that it was not a 7-0 hide. If you posted that shit in the LGBT group you would have been probably blocked from the group by now.[/font]

It is Mu Belief that there are trolls in DU who exploit the protection of children because the feel minimized on their sexuality. Perhaps some of you feel that it is OK for this girl and her shirt to be sent out on Social Media via a cell phone. I think it is dangerous.

[font color=teal face=papyrus size=3]And it is my belief that conflating homosexuality with sexual predators and stigmatizing being gay is also dangerous.

That said, what does this have to do with Texas? Seems like your OP breaks the SoP of the group and unless I am mistaken complaining about a jury is generally frowned upon.

[DhhD]

6. It is already posted on TX DU by the words SHOW.

[LostOne4Ever]

9. And it will probably be locked if the host sees it and feels it has no place here (nt)

[DhhD]

7. Complainig about a jury has nothing to do with Federal and State Laws about Privacy and Sexting.

I am sorry that some can not to look into why it is necessary to have these laws which in my opinion points to why we need laws to help people understand after the public comment time before the laws are passed as well as to why laws draw consequences for continuing a behavior.

[LostOne4Ever]

10. Complaining about DU/Jury is a good way to get another hide/lock

I am sorry that some can not to look into why it is necessary to have these laws which in my opinion points to why we need laws to help people understand after the public comment time before the laws are passed as well as to why laws draw consequences for continuing a behavior.

[font color=teal face=papyrus size=3]Why it is necessary to have laws that point to laws to understand that after some time after a law is passed and why laws draw consequences?

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I have no clue what you are trying to say. Guessing based on your OP, I think you are again trying to justify your comments through sexting laws passed by the Texas legislature. Let me explain some of the reasons why that argument does not work.

1) The Texas legislature is one of the most RIGHT WING legislatures in the country. You are not going to win over ANYONE on DU citing them as a source.

2) The Texas Legislature constantly passes bad, harmful, and moronic laws all the time. For instance, the abortion law that Wendy Davis tried to filibuster.

3) There is no law against wearing a shirt saying Lesbian in Texas nor should there be

4) Homosexuality is not solely about sex so comparing it to sexting laws does not work.

All that said, conflating homosexuality with sexual predators is homophobic and why your post got hidden. Banning the shirt is only gonna stigmatize being homosexual even more to these kids and is going to cause real harm.

Saying that the shirt is going to incite a predator is like saying a woman got attacked because she wore a skimpy skirt. It is victim blaming and does not take reality into account. REAL Sexual predators are always going to exist and are going to be incited by anything. The shirt will not change that, and their victims will continue to be victims of opportunity...not shirts.

[NYC_SKP]

12. You might want to delete this post and prevent another hide, "whining about DU" is a violation.

You have probably already been alerted upon.

Complaints may only be expressed on the Ask the Administrators page.

[DhhD]

13. This reply is past my, ask a question on the Admin, page. Hoping to have time to tell all of you

that it has been a pleasure learning with and putting out information for others here on DU.

Actually my writings today and last night, to me, are a running history. Maybe it is a complaint to you and others. I will find out shortly if that is the case.

If it turns out to be a complaint then complaints go to the DU Administrators, the Authorities.

[NYC_SKP]

14. Just trying to share my experience and provide advice.

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I was a moderator for years, and a host of General Discussion and remain a host of other DU forums, so I know the subtleties of that.

Take your chances as you care to, Lithos is the host of the Texas forum and a friend, we were moderators together.

Juries act as they wish to on specific alerts and may even hide a reply for breaking the statement of purpose of a group, even though that's really the job of hosts.

Again, just so you know how things work, anyone can alert on any post for any reason or no reason, they do it to me all the time.

If while alerting they click on the box that says "This discussion thread is off-topic, or violates the Statement of Purpose for this group", then it will go to the host of the group.

Otherwise, it goes to a jury and in some cases it goes to the administrators.

Try clicking "alert" on any post or any of your own posts or replies and you'll see what I mean.

[Warren Stupidity]

15. "Whining about DU" is not a "violation".

Homophobic idiocy is likely to get hidden and is actually a TOS issue, whining about DU isn't.

[NYC_SKP]

16. Don't argue with me. Whining about DU is a violation of the TOS as "disruptive meta-discussion".

A jury will hide that in a heartbeat if they aren't following the rules to the letter.

Better that a member think in terms of what juries might do, not what is actually written in the rules, verbatim, because juries don't follow the rules.

If, that is, they want to reduce their chances of a hide.

What this member wrote was really really careless and they stepped right into a big pile of poo with their lame analogy about wearing a predator shirt.

They should have left it at "school admins might feel a responsibility to prevent attacks by homophobic students against students who wear shirts that say suggest a student's sexual orientation".

And, in fact, that could be a problem as some schools.

Unfortunately, the member went too far and is now bitter for underestimating the reaction by members who were understandably upset.

We would, however, do a greater service by trying to enlighten people than by bashing them and chasing them away.

And that member will do well to more carefully select their words or stay away from some topics completely.

Like I do. I still won't talk about pressure cookers.

Never. Again.

[NYC_SKP]

17. Your hide had nothing to do with those things.

Your hide had to do with using the word "Predator" in your reply that had to do with shirts that say "Lesbian".

Maybe you didn't mean to create a connection or comparison, but one was created nonetheless and some jurors decided to hide it.

You need to be careful, people have strong feelings and there is no tolerance for bigotry, even if it's unintentional.

Get a thicker skin, choose your words more carefully, instead of being angry and defensive read what you wrote and try to see it from the POV of a gay person who is sick of being compared to predators.

It's not that hard and if you want to make it hard then that says a lot about you.

I'd rather think that you just used poor judgment.