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sl8

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Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:53 AM Nov 2022

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What the holy fuck! lark Nov 2022 #1
I walked home everyday from before age 8. But that was then, this is now Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #2
Shit when I was 8 years old I'd be off hiking in the woods with other little friends Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #3
Society is so screwed up AkFemDem Nov 2022 #4
"Stay outside until the street lights come on." LakeArenal Nov 2022 #5
WTF? A third grader can't walk home in Suburban TX alone? Freethinker65 Nov 2022 #6
This is so absurd it beggars belief cyclonefence Nov 2022 #7
You may be right. sl8 Nov 2022 #9
Texas is not safe for kids. Period. n/t Marcus IM Nov 2022 #8

lark

(23,097 posts)
1. What the holy fuck!
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:59 AM
Nov 2022

Kids walk to and from school every day, it's a normal part of life in America. My kids walked a mile to school every day until they got to high school, no hassles ever. There must be more to this than is written or there are some seriously fucked up people there. Well, ok, I know the 2nd part of the sentence is true but it's so sad this woman got caught up in their ugly drama.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
2. I walked home everyday from before age 8. But that was then, this is now
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:59 AM
Nov 2022

If she were smart she'd send him home but tail him without him seeing her a block behind. (Difficult to pull off, I admit.)

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Shit when I was 8 years old I'd be off hiking in the woods with other little friends
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:03 AM
Nov 2022

Oftentimes a mile or two away from home. Or riding my bike on town roads. And nobody's parents knew where the hell any of us were 1/2 the time esp. in summers.

Barring a situation where the child is disabled in some way, or it was really bad weather, or pitch black out ... bringing charges against the mom seems excessive.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
4. Society is so screwed up
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:11 AM
Nov 2022

We bash parents for being “helicopter parents” and not letting their kids just run around outside free anymore, and then we put them in jail when they let them out of their sight.

Assuming her 8 year old is neuro-typical and able to safely navigate a quiet neighborhood to his own house, this is absolutely ridiculous.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
5. "Stay outside until the street lights come on."
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:26 AM
Nov 2022

My parents were so neglectful. (Not.)

Freethinker65

(10,015 posts)
6. WTF? A third grader can't walk home in Suburban TX alone?
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

I had a neighbor questioning me having my son in first grade walk one block to my house. She offered to have her older son escort him home. I asked my son, ifhe wanted that and he said "No, it's one block. I can practically see our house from the school door!"

So now in TX, not only are you forced to give birth, but you are forced to escort your within walking distance elementary school kids to and from school.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
7. This is so absurd it beggars belief
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 11:00 AM
Nov 2022

It's not that I don't believe people can be so stupid as to charge this woman with child endangerment, it's that it's hard to understand what the hell is going on with news reports that seem tailored to rile us up.

I went to the website cited--it's a UK online newspaper--and couldn't read the full story because they wanted me to sign up. No thanks.

So I googled the story, thinking anything this outrageous must have had extensive media coverage, at least in Texas.

The only place I could find the story was at a website called Reason, under the sub-heading of "free-range parents," which this story doesn't seem to have anything to do with imo. So I googled Reason.com, which was identified as a Libertarian site concerned with individual rights.

The story at Reason was more outrageous than I'd thought. The cops were called by a neighbor; the kid was in his home block (the woman, who lived a block away, had actually gone out and asked the kid where he lived). The discussion with the mother was weird: the cops asked her if she was aware of sex trafficking, and had she learned her lesson and never let her kid walk home alone again. She told them she did not know that it was illegal, so they arrested her.

Child services had the family agree to a safety plan, which meant Wallace and her husband could not be alone with their kids for even a second. Their mothers—the children's grandmothers—had to visit and trade-off overnight stays in order to guarantee the parents were constantly supervised. After two weeks, child services closed Wallace's case, finding the complaint was unfounded.
https://reason.com/2022/11/16/suburban-mom-jailed-handcuffed-cps-son-walk-home/

This all I can stand to write. Suffice it to say that this involves some law supported by Libertarians that left a loophole so that the cops could arrest parents in cases like this. Sounds to me like the neighbor was making a political protest of some kind, and like the mother could have avoided all the hoo-hah by simply agreeing with the officers that she wouldn't let her kid walk home alone again (with crossed fingers behind her back). And the job she lost was part-time at a pediatric sleep clinic.

IOW it seems to me that a lot of people were making points about something other than the safety of a kid walking half a mile. And that maybe the Independent isn't the best source for USA news.

sl8

(13,749 posts)
9. You may be right.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 12:17 PM
Nov 2022

Will delete.

Marcus IM

(2,201 posts)
8. Texas is not safe for kids. Period. n/t
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 11:44 AM
Nov 2022
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