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postulater

(5,075 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:05 PM Oct 2012

Any news on the Walker Recall recount efforts?

A couple months ago there was a group that was hand-counting ballots in selected counties throughout the state.

Last I heard they were keeping their findings quiet.

Are they completed? Did they find any evidence of inaccurate counts?

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Any news on the Walker Recall recount efforts? (Original Post) postulater Oct 2012 OP
Well, check this website... mojowork_n Oct 2012 #1
This is a study of the April Republican primary, not the recall. And it's got nothing... mojowork_n Oct 2012 #2
Thanks for that. postulater Oct 2012 #5
There *will* be a follow-up story. Breaking it down some more. mojowork_n Oct 2012 #6
Thanks again. It would be so demoralizing postulater Oct 2012 #7
This is most likely more widespread than realized!!! hue Oct 2012 #3
Good idea, thanks. mojowork_n Oct 2012 #4
K&R for updates... midnight Oct 2012 #8
Sequel to Statistical Analysis of the Republican Primary story is here. mojowork_n Nov 2012 #9
Are central tabulators operated by the private source code? midnight Nov 2012 #10

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
1. Well, check this website...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oct 2012

These are the folks who were most involved.

http://libertytreefoundation.org/

Scroll down a little bit and there's a long interview with Greg Palast, from just a few days ago. I'm on p. 85 of his book, "Billionaires & Ballot Bandits: How to Steal an Election in 9 Easy Steps." (It's terrific. Learning a lot.)

But no time tonight to tell you what might be in the video.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
2. This is a study of the April Republican primary, not the recall. And it's got nothing...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:20 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

.....to do with the LibertyTree Foundation recount.

But all that being said, it's still pretty interesting. Especially since the pattern was
repeated throughout the Republican primaries:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rigged-Elections-for-Romne-by-Michael-Collins-121022-13.html

Wisconsin, for example, is represented in the graph below. Moving from the smallest to largest precincts, you can see Romney's percent of the vote takes off and those of the others drop after about 7% of the votes are counted. Romney's percentage of precinct votes goes up (the upward slope of the green line) while those of the three other candidates decline.





The steady increase in Romney's percent of the vote and steady decline in Santorum's represents a statistical anomaly. In this case, the anomaly is amazing according to the researchers. They argue that the probability of this happening by chance alone is so small it exceeds the capability of statistical packages to handle. Their software says Romney's share of the vote, increasing with precinct size has zero probability of occurring by chance alone.

The significance of the Wisconsin analysis is of grave concern. Presuming the use of appropriate statistical measures and analysis, human intervention is the most likely available explanation.

Vote flipping gave Romney a 57,000-vote victory over Santorum in Wisconsin. Absent vote flipping, Santorum would have won over Romney by about 54,000 according the group's analysis.

Was Wisconsin the only state where Romney's share of the vote increased in this way as precinct size increased?


Click the link at the top to read more.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
6. There *will* be a follow-up story. Breaking it down some more.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:17 PM
Oct 2012

I re-posted the link and everything in "Election Reform."

The guy who wrote the article saw it (can you believe it, he's a D.U.'er?)
and he commented, saying that he's going to expand on it with a sequel.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1091576

Links to other election reform info, too.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
7. Thanks again. It would be so demoralizing
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:20 PM
Oct 2012

to see another election stolen.

I still wonder how they did the Walker recall. I do not believe for a second that it was even close.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
4. Good idea, thanks.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:08 AM
Oct 2012

After posting it here, I put it in the "Election Reform" forum.

Looked up the comments on your post, and added one more:

It just me today, that the amount of TeeVee advertising
and the overwhelmingly negative, bleak, anxiety-inducing
tone of most all of them isn't solely for the purpose of persuading voters.

The day after the election, we're all supposed to be sooooo relieved that the ad
bombardment is finally over, that we won't want to look or think twice about the
official, announced tabulations.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
9. Sequel to Statistical Analysis of the Republican Primary story is here.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:40 PM
Nov 2012

Cross-posting from General Discussion, since it remains an issue of importance for us locals:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021679328

Part I of this series suggested that there may well have been massive vote flipping for candidate Mitt Romney in the Republican primaries (Rigged Elections for Romney (10/22/12) The article and the initial research analysis were received broadly. In addition, highly motivated citizens across the country and a team of high school students contacted the authors for help replicating the research in their states. The researchers, Francois et al., point out that this can be done with their open source techniques.

The basic argument is straightforward. If you look at precinct level voting data arranged from the smallest to the largest precincts, you will see Romney's gains increasing substantially as the cumulative vote increases. For example, Ohio and Wisconsin show this clearly as do eleven other states presented here. This extraordinary vote gain from smallest to largest precincts is so out of line, that the probability that this would happen by chance alone is often less than 1 out of a number represented by 1 preceded by 100 zeros and a decimal point, a value beneath the statistical package’s lower limits. As a result, the researchers termed the suspected vote flipping for Romney the “amazing anomaly.” (The Amazing Statistical Anomaly).....

.....Vote flipping is a form of election fraud that occurs "when votes are changed from one candidate to another or several others during electronic voting and vote tabulation." County election officials conduct computerized vote tabulation as precincts submit their voting results, but cannot detect the fraud because only the total number of votes is checked and vote flipping does not affect the total votes.....

....Are Central Tabulators Vulnerable to Hacking and Manipulation?

The best way to hack a central tabulator is to buy an elections equipment company. These privately held, unaccountable firms provide the majority of voting systems in the United States......


When we allow our elected representatives to institute "privatized voting" (in the interest of what? saving a few bucks?), instead of providing an absolute guarantee for election integrity, this is what we need to be on the alert for.
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