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laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:51 PM Jul 2015

RBC basically stole all of my money today

I know most people don't need this warning at all...however there may be some divorced people out there that might need this.

Basically, I'm divorced. Haven't lived with or near my ex for 5/6 years. We had a business once upon a time. He put my name on it, even though I didn't want my name on it. I was never involved with the business What I didn't know is that he took out thousands of dollars in loans under my name and the business's name (he often tricked me into signing documents not telling me what they were, but I suspect he forged some as well). I found out a year or so after we separated. By then, he had ruined my credit - I was a stay at home parent and he was the 'financial guy'. I trusted him to pay our stuff. He didn't and totally bankrupted us, and I found out about all of it around the same time I found out he was cheating and had been for years...

Over the years I've had some calls and letters about outstanding business loans , but once I explain my situation (single parent of 4, full time student, living under the poverty line), most places left me alone. And anyway my ex had been paying them down as he was able (business is long since gone...gone since we split). I've been getting my degree, getting a job, rebuilding my credit (and my life).

Anyhow, there was 1 loan left. He managed to pay off all the other ones with the sale of our marital home. I thought they had all been paid off. But no, there was one left with RBC and today they just completely drained my account to pay for it.

Everything I had, all of my savings and checking.

Thankfully my ex will put the money back, he feels bad. He has been making payments but not as much as they wanted.

Just a warning - don't bank in the same place that you have outstanding loans, even if they are business loans. I've spoken with many RBC people over the years about these issues and I was promised they would never do this. They lied. I know legally they could do it, but I really didn't think they would given how many people I've talked to about this.

Apparently RBC is okay with stealing money out of this single mom's account.

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RBC basically stole all of my money today (Original Post) laundry_queen Jul 2015 OP
I am sorry that this happened to you awake Jul 2015 #1
Legally speaking? laundry_queen Jul 2015 #3
Uh, yes they did HEyHEY Jul 2015 #6
It's in there laundry_queen Jul 2015 #7
Embezzlement another crime of the mega wealthy ignored. WDIM Jul 2015 #2
Agreed laundry_queen Jul 2015 #4
OMG Joe Shlabotnik Jul 2015 #5
Thanks Joe laundry_queen Jul 2015 #8

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
3. Legally speaking?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

Probably not. Morally, ethically...especially after promising me they would not do this, that it was not part of their procedure? When I could've switched banks and my money would've been safe? Yes.

HEyHEY

(45,977 posts)
6. Uh, yes they did
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jul 2015

Just because you have an account with a bank doesn't mean they can unilaterally take your money. In fact, Laundry queen. Read your account agreement and see what you allowed them to do when you opened the account. If you dont' see "Take money to pay loans whenever we feel like it" file a police report.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
7. It's in there
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

legally speaking they can do it. I'm pretty sure all of the big 5 banks in Canada have that clause. They can also freeze your bank account for any reason at all, they don't have to prove anything. If they suspect anything they can unilaterally close your account too. It's all in the agreement.

I'll be going on Tuesday to open up a new account at the local credit union and you can bet I'll be reading that part of their agreement. I'll let you know if they apply that clause as well. If you bank in Canada you really should check - think about it, anyone could forge your signature on a loan, default and then they can take money from your account with no proof that you signed the documents. Scary shit. I asked them to prove that I owed the money (because I'm not sure which loans I signed for and which ones my ex may have forged - his business partner said he's forged a lot - so I want proof) and they didn't - they just took the money.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
2. Embezzlement another crime of the mega wealthy ignored.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jul 2015

It truly is a crime that they would treat a customer that way.

One of the problems of our debt system is the debtor takes all the risk. The bank will seize property, attach paychecks, ruin credit scores which limits employment and housing opportunities, even when they knew the loan was risky or even bad in the first place.

And it is all because our governments have put the laws in place that allow these predatory vulture capitalist to terrorize and extort the people.

And when the banks bad bets catch up to them they expect the same people they terrorize and extort to bail them out. It is sickening.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
5. OMG
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:39 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:47 PM - Edit history (1)


Edit to add.

If the RBC did it once, they can do it again. I'd open a different account at bank that he had no dealings with. I had a business account with them before, but purposely conducted my personal banking at another bank. When I had debt troubles, quite frequently I'd find my account frozen, and once cleaned out by them too. If your ex is taking care of paying you back then hopefully its just an inconvenience. Still I'd talk to a lawyer about any possible options you may have, or even options your ex has. The former company should really apply to be struck from the register of corporations, and officially closed down, and/or if its still unmanageable perhaps debt restructuring, or bankruptcy considered.

I hope you get through this ok, these surprises in life are totally unfair.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
8. Thanks Joe
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:22 PM
Jul 2015

Check your PM's

And oh yeah, yes my ex has just finished all that with regards to the company - he thought he had to keep it open while it had debt but he recently did contact a lawyer and accountant and has shut it down. The maddening part is he has paid it down quite a bit (cut in half over the last year), but recently missed a payment, so RBC decided they want it all at once.

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