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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 06:26 AM Jun 2018

I'll say this for the Brexiteers - they've made radical rhetoric respectable

The revolution is being betrayed! That is the battle cry of the Tory Brexiteer ultras: that a dastardly counter-revolutionary assault on their sacred project is under way. Yesterday’s latest non-resignation by the Brexit secretary David Davis – having secured a time-limited backstop that the EU will never accept and that has no actual time limit – and his briefing against the prime minister for “Brexit backsliding” was the latest act in the Great Betrayal saga. That the Daily Mail will now be edited by a rightwing remainer rather than a rightwing Brexiteer has only added to the mounting panic. Then came the Boris Johnson leak: not only lauding Donald Trump and craving his approach to politics, but castigating the Treasury as “the heart of remain”.

The Tory Brexiteers have dressed themselves in revolutionary garb, posing as insurgent Jacobins. “We have initiated revolution,” as Tory remainer Dominic Grieve bemoaned last year, “and the trouble with revolutions is you’re never quite sure what’s going to happen next.” Their opponents are “enemies of the people” and “saboteurs” and “traitors”. They claim the establishment is seeking to subvert the popular will. To be clear, I think it’s all nonsense – the Tory right are reactionaries, not revolutionaries, who wish to hand the economic elite more wealth and power through tax cuts, privatisation and deregulation. But by legitimising revolutionary rhetoric, they have helped the left more than they can ever know.


[link:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/08/brexiteers-radical-rhetoric-tory-brexit|

They have always had that right wing rhetoric down - until 2016 however it was a low mutter from the back benches as no-one in their right mind would have dreamed of promoting them to high office. Alas those days are over. Fucking nutters taking over the world
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I'll say this for the Brexiteers - they've made radical rhetoric respectable (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2018 OP
They haven't got there yet ! The mask has dropped though and slowly the forces of OnDoutside Jun 2018 #1
Brexit analysis: Barnier lays waste to UK plan OnDoutside Jun 2018 #2

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
1. They haven't got there yet ! The mask has dropped though and slowly the forces of
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:16 AM
Jun 2018

Truth are fighting back. The Brexit crowd are stamping their feet at the EU for not giving in to all their demands. The truth is that they have been utter rabble with no idea of how they were going to achieve a negotiated Brexit on their terms.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
2. Brexit analysis: Barnier lays waste to UK plan
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 09:22 AM
Jun 2018

ANALYSIS

No amount of spin will protect David Davis from EU negotiators’ assessment

Patrick Smyth Europe Editor

The headline of one tabloid screamed “Brexit back on course”.
The polite reception in Brussels – and Dublin – for the UK’s latest Brexit paper on the “backstop”, prompted by relief that at last they had something to talk about, led some optimists in London to the view that a robust UK had pulled one over on Brussels.

Dream on.

When Brexit secretary David Davis meets the EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier on Monday morning for the next talks round, he will find that the gloves have come off.
And he will be rapidly disabused of the hope that all the UK had to do to win brownie points for effort at the end of June summit was to demonstrate a plausible willingness to address the backstop issue. No-one really expected them to resolve the issue, they believe.

SNIP

Not plausible
Barnier on Friday made clear that that strategy would not wash. For a start the UK document paper can not be described as a plausible attempt at addressing the issue. Politely, he demolished it brick by brick. Crucially, he explained, member states were prepared to make an exceptional case of the North, waving common EU rules and practises for the first and last time, to preserve the frictionless Border and the Belfast Agreement. Such privileges were not on offer to the rest of the UK by virtue, not of malice, but its decision to leave the union. To imagine you could simply extend the backstop provisions UK-wide was presumptuous nonsense.

SNIP

Moreover, should the deal not be able to provide the same level of safeguards required to deliver and maintain the North’s frictionless border – most unlikely if the UK maintains its refusal to stay in the customs union and single market – there will be an insistence by the EU that the “fallback” backstop remain in place.

It’s not a case of either/or, but both. And there is no way for May – or the DUP – to indefinitely avoid confronting the hard choices that the backstop will require.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/brexit-analysis-barnier-lays-waste-to-uk-plan-1.3524353
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