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Soph0571

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Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:12 PM Jun 2019

Here's the essential state of English politics in 96 seconds




“No, because there’s clear division across the party…within the leader’s office, between different MPs,” he began, in what goes on to be a succinct and savage take-down of the political circus surrounding the Brexit process.

I think we need to zoom out a little bit and ask what’s happened here. You had an argument in 2016, in very broad terms, in which – and this is a very important, very, very important point to make – no one, including people who voted remain, no one really understand exactly what withdrawing from the European Union would involve.

That was as true of people who voted remain as it was for people who voted leave.

You then triggered Article 50 and you had a process, a moment where Britain’s slightly abstract, weird, not very detailed, broadly fact-free debate about relationship with the European Union had a kind of bump into reality.

And someone had to go – the government ministers had to go – sit opposite the table from Michel Barnier and get schooled in the reality of what in actually means to withdraw from the European Union.

That process ended.

And on Brexiteers?
Most Brexiteers looked to the outcome of that process, and what it actually said about the strategic reality of Britain’s relationship with the European Union, freaked out, said, ‘We don’t like that. We don’t like the terms that come out of that. We reject it.’

And now, after the brush-by with reality, our European Union debate has just sort of sailed off and now you have the Brexit Party essentially talking about the process just like it’s 2016 again and in total defiance of the actual reality and all of the evidence base you have accrued over the last two/three years and the Labour Party sitting back from that and going, ‘Maybe, if this whole house burns down, a Tory whole project, we can walk across the ashes and become a government,

It’s basically embarrassing for every other country in the world looking at this and goes, ‘That is a country that doesn’t even believe in economic and political gravity anymore.’


[link:https://www.indy100.com/article/brexit-video-explain-rafael-behr-guardian-columnist-politics-live-8952526|

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Here's the essential state of English politics in 96 seconds (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2019 OP
A national disaster for sure... comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #1
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