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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 03:03 PM Jun 2013

Thousands of Britain's may have been spied on by GCHQ as link to Prism scandal is laid bare

Last edited Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:55 AM - Edit history (2)

David Cameron and Theresa May, the Home Secretary, faces cross-party demands to spell out details of links between the electronic eavesdropping centre in Cheltenham and the previously-unknown Prism programme operated by the National Security Agency (NSA).

The disclosure triggered a civil liberties storm as the information-sharing agreement had not been made known to Parliament or the public.

Ms May, who is determined to revive her own “snoopers’ charter” plans to require telecoms companies to collect data about people’s internet habits, will be confronted by MPs over the claims in the Commons on Monday.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/thousands-of-britains-may-have-been-spied-on-by-gchq-as-link-to-prism-scandal-is-laid-bare-8650001.html

Our cousins appear to have no knowledge of either our own Data Protection Act nor that of the EU. Breaching our laws is presumably tacit acceptance of foreigners breaching their laws. On that basis hopefully we won't see any more whining, whinging, harping on, moaning , griping, whatever from their administration when China does the same to the US.

They can search me all they fucking like in what would be an unending attempt to discover exactly what it is about banjos that interests me so much.

Tossers.

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Thousands of Britain's may have been spied on by GCHQ as link to Prism scandal is laid bare (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2013 OP
I think you missed a "won't" out. oldironside Jun 2013 #1
Ta for the edit note dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #2
You're most welcome. oldironside Jun 2013 #3
Oh, and another thing. oldironside Jun 2013 #4
lol dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #5
Oh, I've got a thousand of these. oldironside Jun 2013 #6
Doesn't surprise me to be honest LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #7
Yes, I've assumed that since we don't have constitutional protections muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #8
... warrprayer Jun 2013 #9
Nice one. dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #10
Always thought GCHQ Jeneral2885 Jun 2013 #11
Moscow Rules fedsron2us Jun 2013 #12
Must find my white chalk dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #13
Hague: Law-abiding Britons have nothing to fear from GCHQ dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #14
European politicians and the government have been dumped in the crud by this leak fedsron2us Jun 2013 #15
Outsourcing spying Georgi Dimitrov Jun 2013 #18
he failed to clearly define Jeneral2885 Jun 2013 #16
David Cameron: Intelligence agencies work within law dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #17

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
1. I think you missed a "won't" out.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

"On that basis hopefully we see any more whining, whinging, harping on, moaning , griping, whatever from their administration when China does the same to the US."

But your points are very valid. Who the fuck do they think they are?

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
3. You're most welcome.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013

And I would also like to point out to any American spy who reads this that there is nothing unhealthy about my interest in Cheryl Cole. Honest.

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
4. Oh, and another thing.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jun 2013

If they are spying on me, they could have at least given my youtube account a couple of views. Bastards.

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
6. Oh, I've got a thousand of these.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jun 2013

Wait till I tell them what I really think of grown men playing rounders and netball, and that weird homoerotic event they call... football?

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
7. Doesn't surprise me to be honest
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:09 AM
Jun 2013

I've always assumed that our media, our government, and other governments (our allies even more than our enemies) were spying the hell out of us. Thought so in the 80s under Thatcher, and think so now. The technology may be ever more sophisticated as time goes on, but the attitude is the same.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
8. Yes, I've assumed that since we don't have constitutional protections
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:56 AM
Jun 2013

then they would do it. It's a bit more surprising to me that they're doing it as a blanket 'collect all call data on everyone' approach in the US as well, but apparently they already have a Supreme Court ruling that the 'meta data' doesn't require a search warrant.

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
11. Always thought GCHQ
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jun 2013

was one of the better intel agencies. Or I've been reading too many Frederick Forsyth novels

fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
12. Moscow Rules
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:31 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.itstactical.com/intellicom/tradecraft/the-moscow-rules/

I like the second one best

Technology will always let you down.

Hope all our beloved rulers who like to spy on us for the sake of 'security' (security for whom and from what ?) read their own guidelines.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. Hague: Law-abiding Britons have nothing to fear from GCHQ
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 05:57 AM
Jun 2013

William Hague said reports that the UK's eavesdropping centre GCHQ had circumvented the law to gather data on British citizens were "nonsense".

But he refused to confirm or deny claims GCHQ has had access to a US spy programme called Prism since June 2010.

Mr Hague confirmed he would give a statement to Parliament on the allegations on Monday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832263

fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
15. European politicians and the government have been dumped in the crud by this leak
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:37 AM
Jun 2013

since the data gathering being undertaken by the NSA clearly violates the various UK and EU Data Protection legislation.

If Google, Microsoft and Facebook are complicit they have also violated the Safe Harbour agreement between the EU and the US

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/nsa-prism-records-surveillance-questions

There is prima facie evidence of a criminal act here so the police may end up getting called into investigate.

The spy agencies are just going to love having teams of burly scuffers trawling through their records and quizzing their operatives.

Georgi Dimitrov

(2 posts)
18. Outsourcing spying
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jun 2013

From all that I've read, it appears that plausible deniability is in fact, plausible as the NSA has long outsourced this work to two Israeli-based companies, Verint and Narus (See http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/digital_blackwater_meet_the_contractors_who_analyze_your_personal_data/ for details).

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
17. David Cameron: Intelligence agencies work within law
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:05 AM
Jun 2013

David Cameron has insisted intelligence agencies "operate within the law", amid allegations that the data-gathering centre GCHQ circumvented the law to gain information on UK citizens.

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The prime minister said UK agencies were subject to "proper scrutiny" by Parliament and did a "fantastic job".

Foreign Secretary William Hague will make a statement to MPs at 15:30 BST.

The government has so far refused to confirm or deny claims GCHQ has had access to a US spy programme called Prism since June 2010.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22839090

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