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David Cameron and Theresa May, the Home Secretary, faces cross-party demands to spell out details of links between the electronic eavesdropping centre in Cheltenham and the previously-unknown Prism programme operated by the National Security Agency (NSA).
The disclosure triggered a civil liberties storm as the information-sharing agreement had not been made known to Parliament or the public.
Ms May, who is determined to revive her own snoopers charter plans to require telecoms companies to collect data about peoples internet habits, will be confronted by MPs over the claims in the Commons on Monday.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/thousands-of-britains-may-have-been-spied-on-by-gchq-as-link-to-prism-scandal-is-laid-bare-8650001.html
Our cousins appear to have no knowledge of either our own Data Protection Act nor that of the EU. Breaching our laws is presumably tacit acceptance of foreigners breaching their laws. On that basis hopefully we won't see any more whining, whinging, harping on, moaning , griping, whatever from their administration when China does the same to the US.
They can search me all they fucking like in what would be an unending attempt to discover exactly what it is about banjos that interests me so much.
Tossers.
oldironside
(1,248 posts)"On that basis hopefully we see any more whining, whinging, harping on, moaning , griping, whatever from their administration when China does the same to the US."
But your points are very valid. Who the fuck do they think they are?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)oldironside
(1,248 posts)And I would also like to point out to any American spy who reads this that there is nothing unhealthy about my interest in Cheryl Cole. Honest.
oldironside
(1,248 posts)If they are spying on me, they could have at least given my youtube account a couple of views. Bastards.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)oldironside
(1,248 posts)Wait till I tell them what I really think of grown men playing rounders and netball, and that weird homoerotic event they call... football?
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)I've always assumed that our media, our government, and other governments (our allies even more than our enemies) were spying the hell out of us. Thought so in the 80s under Thatcher, and think so now. The technology may be ever more sophisticated as time goes on, but the attitude is the same.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)then they would do it. It's a bit more surprising to me that they're doing it as a blanket 'collect all call data on everyone' approach in the US as well, but apparently they already have a Supreme Court ruling that the 'meta data' doesn't require a search warrant.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)was one of the better intel agencies. Or I've been reading too many Frederick Forsyth novels
fedsron2us
(2,863 posts)I like the second one best
Technology will always let you down.
Hope all our beloved rulers who like to spy on us for the sake of 'security' (security for whom and from what ?) read their own guidelines.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and get over to Hampstead Heath.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)William Hague said reports that the UK's eavesdropping centre GCHQ had circumvented the law to gather data on British citizens were "nonsense".
But he refused to confirm or deny claims GCHQ has had access to a US spy programme called Prism since June 2010.
Mr Hague confirmed he would give a statement to Parliament on the allegations on Monday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832263
fedsron2us
(2,863 posts)since the data gathering being undertaken by the NSA clearly violates the various UK and EU Data Protection legislation.
If Google, Microsoft and Facebook are complicit they have also violated the Safe Harbour agreement between the EU and the US
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/nsa-prism-records-surveillance-questions
There is prima facie evidence of a criminal act here so the police may end up getting called into investigate.
The spy agencies are just going to love having teams of burly scuffers trawling through their records and quizzing their operatives.
Georgi Dimitrov
(2 posts)From all that I've read, it appears that plausible deniability is in fact, plausible as the NSA has long outsourced this work to two Israeli-based companies, Verint and Narus (See http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/digital_blackwater_meet_the_contractors_who_analyze_your_personal_data/ for details).
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)law-abiding
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)David Cameron has insisted intelligence agencies "operate within the law", amid allegations that the data-gathering centre GCHQ circumvented the law to gain information on UK citizens.
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The prime minister said UK agencies were subject to "proper scrutiny" by Parliament and did a "fantastic job".
Foreign Secretary William Hague will make a statement to MPs at 15:30 BST.
The government has so far refused to confirm or deny claims GCHQ has had access to a US spy programme called Prism since June 2010.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22839090
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