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muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:00 AM Aug 2013

Jacob Rees-Mogg and the right-wing group that wants black Britons to leave the UK

A mainstream conservative campaign group named Traditional Britain has called for Doreen Lawrence, the newly appointed Labour peer, and millions of ethnic-minority Britons to “return to their natural homelands”, Liberal Conspiracy has found.

Traditional Britain also refers to Labour MP Chuka Umunna as “a Nigerian” and Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi as “foreign“. When Ukip MEP referred to aid-recieving countries as ‘Bongobongoland’, TB called him “a legend“.

We have gone through their Facebook page extensively to illustrate their views. Traditional Britain’s call for minorities to return to their ‘natural homelands’ echoes that of the British National Party, which calls for ‘generous grants’ to be given to ‘those of foreign descent’ who wish to leave the UK.
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In fact, its 2013 Annual Dinner Guest-of-honour was Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg – which took place on 17th May 2013.

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/08/08/exclusive-william-rees-mogg-and-the-right-wing-group-that-wants-black-britons-to-leave-the-uk/


You have to see the shit they post on Facebook - you'd think it was the BNP. They try to defend themselves on their home page with:

The TBG has no "links" with any far-right organisations. However we are aware that the BBC and other media outlets describe some overseas political parties which we take an interest in (and that is all) who are opposed to alien (to cite Enoch Powell) immigration into their countries as "far-right" although it is difficult to see the context as those parties have whole rafts of policies on all matters. They are not single-issue groups.

The TBG also is concerned with an entire range of issues. But we believe that exiting the EU and halting immigration are crucial to the survival of the British nation. One appreciates this upsets the liberal-left but we should be permitted to entertain our own opinions on these matters just as they are, without being smeared as "far-right". It is clear that people across the political spectrums among the man-in-the-street are concerned about immigration. Certainly the Daily Mail also appears to be thinking along our lines.


Well, yes, they are a far-right organisation - you can tell by the racist stuff they write. The Mail can be dodgy, but at least it had the guts to accuse the killers of Stephen Lawrence, rather than calling for his mother to be exiled. That is a significant difference.

Their front page has this:

The one modern photo is Simon Heffer - who spoke to them in 2006. Among all the other dead white males (jeez, you'd think they could have put Thatcher or the queen in there), one from the right on the bottom row, is what appears to be a man in a German uniform. Does anyone recognise it? There's some writing up the right hand side of it, but I can't make it out. It certainly doesn't make me think 'Traditional Britain' when I look at it.

On edit - a few suspects:

The Traditional Britain Group professes to combine traditional Conservative thinking and radical anti-liberalism. This can be seen on its website home page, which features images of a host of conservative thinkers who presumably influence its thought, ranging from icons of conservatism such as Lord Salisbury, Bejamin Disraeli, Neville Chamberlain, Enoch Powell and Roger Scruton to icons of the radical right such as the German ‘conservative revolutionaries’ Oswald Spengler and Ernst Jünger, influential fascist philosopher Julius Evola, French New Right guru Alain de Benoist and contemporary Russian nationalist Alexander Dugin.

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/archive/familiar-obsessions


It's Ernst Jünger (lauded here, in Czech) - almost, but not officially, a Nazi. He did fight against Britain, though - twice.

Jünger was born in Heidelberg to a middle-class family and grew up in Hannover as the son of a chemical engineer, who later became a pharmacist. He attended school from 1901 to 1913 and was a member of the Wandervogel movement. In 1913, he ran away from home to join the French Foreign Legion, in which he served very briefly in North Africa. During World War I he served with distinction in the Imperial German Army on the Western Front. He was wounded seven times during his war service. In the first week of January 1917 he was awarded the Iron Cross First Class[1] and in September 1918 was awarded Prussia's highest military decoration of that time, the Pour le Mérite (informally known as the "Blue Max&quot . This he received as a Lieutenant at the age of 23.
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His war experiences are first described in Storm of Steel (German title: In Stahlgewittern) which Jünger self-published in 1920. This book, by which Jünger became suddenly famous, has been seen as glorifying war. Jünger served as a lieutenant in the army of the Weimar Republic until his demobilisation in 1923. He studied marine biology, zoology, botany, and philosophy, and became a well-known entomologist. In Germany, an important entomological prize is named after him: the Ernst-Jünger-Preis für Entomologie.[2]

In the 1920s Jünger published articles in several right-wing nationalist journals, and further novels. As in Storm of Steel, in the book Feuer und Blut (1925, Fire and Blood), Jünger glorified war as an internal event. According to Jünger, war elevates the soldier's life, isolated from normal humanity, into a mystical experience.[3] The extremities of modern military techniques tested the capacity of the human senses.[4] He criticized the fragile and unstable democracy of the Weimar Republic, stating that he "hated democracy like the plague."[5] Although never a member of the National Socialist movement around Adolf Hitler, Jünger never publicly criticized the regime before the war. Jünger, however, refused a chair offered to him in the Reichstag following the Nazi Party's ascension to power in 1933, and he refused the invitation to head the German Academy of Literature (Die deutsche Akademie der Dichtung).[6] Even though he never endorsed the Nazi Party, and indeed kept them at a careful distance, Jünger's Storm of Steel sold well into the six-figure range by the end of the 1930s.[7] In the essay On Pain,[8] written and published in 1934, Jünger rejects the liberal values of liberty, security, ease, and comfort, and seeks instead the measure of man in the capacity to withstand pain and sacrifice.

In 1927, he moved to Berlin. In 1929, his work The Adventurous Heart (German title: Das abenteuerliche Herz) was published. In Über Nationalismus und Judenfrage (1930, On Nationalism and the Jewish Question), Jünger describes Jews as a threat to the unity of Germans. In 1932, he published The Worker (German title: Der Arbeiter), which called for the creation of a totally mobilized society run by warrior-worker-scholars.
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He served in World War II as an army captain. Assigned to an administrative position in Paris, he socialized with prominent artists of the day such as Picasso and Jean Cocteau. His early time in France is described in his diary Gärten und Straßen (1942, Gardens and Streets).


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Jacob Rees-Mogg and the right-wing group that wants black Britons to leave the UK (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 OP
Very scary LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #1
I don't recognise the guy in uniform, oldironside Aug 2013 #2
Part of the worrying blurring of the lines between the "mainstream" right ... non sociopath skin Aug 2013 #3

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
1. Very scary
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 04:22 PM
Aug 2013

Jacob Rees-Mogg is both a right-wing nut and incredibly stupid. I was to put it mildly no fan of his father, but he was not totally barking like his idiot son (isn't he the one who still needs his nanny?)

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
2. I don't recognise the guy in uniform,
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:44 AM
Aug 2013

although that is fairly definitely a Wehrmacht uniform.

I thought John Amery for a moment, but definitely not.

There are some strange choices there. Neville Chamberlain, probably for his wise peace policy of appeasing Hitler to attempt to build an anti-communist alliance (do I need a sarcasm tag?).

Charles I - the only English monarch to declare war on his own people twice, lost twice and then plot a third try.

But Goethe? Goethe? The man was a damned Hun!

non sociopath skin

(4,972 posts)
3. Part of the worrying blurring of the lines between the "mainstream" right ...
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 04:54 AM
Aug 2013

... and the extreme, racist right.

"Useful Idiots" .

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