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eppur_se_muova

(36,307 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 04:24 PM Feb 2020

I'm about to start taking Time Machine seriously. I've been years without a real backup strategy.

Last time I had a working backup strategy I was using a tape drive which could store 2GB (IIRC) on a DAT cartridge. It's been ages since I could afford most repairs, much less really useful peripherals, so I only just now picked up a 1TB USB SSD for my backup drive, and will be getting a 250GB USB SSD for some duplicate backups.

Now, none of the disks I'm backing up is all that large -- I have *very* little use for music files and almost none for video, so I could easily back up several disks on those SSDs, **IF** there's not some problem with splitting at least one of the backup disks into partitions so I can put backups for two or three different OSs on the same disk.

Anyone know of potential problems here ? Do I have to set up the drive a certain way, other than using Disk Tools to create the partitions ? I don't anticipate needing to boot off of either one of these drives, so that might limit any problems. I've actually got several boot drives with Linux (Manjaro or Linux Lite) and WinXP (basically retired) on the same drive, or multiple installations of Linux distros, and even a Mac Pro which formerly had seven partitions (OSX 10.7 and 10.9 and various Linux distros) on one disk, but I wasn't really using Time Capsule and I don't know what to expect there.

Any suggestions on little details I should be sure to do, or not to do ??

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I'm about to start taking Time Machine seriously. I've been years without a real backup strategy. (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Feb 2020 OP
I've used Time Machine for quite awhile now, but have never had to use it The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1
Time Machine works quite well with this ... Mme. Defarge Feb 2020 #2
You are far ahead of me on computer language Lulu KC Feb 2020 #3
Should work fine. CloudWatcher Feb 2020 #4
Thanks, I'm basically ready to just hook one up and format it for three partitions. eppur_se_muova Feb 2020 #5
Carbon Copy Cloner is also useful Tetrachloride Feb 2020 #6
Time machine saved my ass more than once already 47of74 Apr 2020 #7
My backup routine using Time Machine SmartVoter22 Apr 2020 #8

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,920 posts)
1. I've used Time Machine for quite awhile now, but have never had to use it
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 04:29 PM
Feb 2020

to back up lost files. It's pretty much a plug-and-play gadget that automatically performs a backup every day or when you tell it to.

Mme. Defarge

(8,055 posts)
2. Time Machine works quite well with this ...
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020
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Lulu KC

(2,575 posts)
3. You are far ahead of me on computer language
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

but I have a sweet little Toshiba backup drive I think cost about $30 through Amazon and I just plug it in and hit time machine and it goes. The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes it gets stuck in the "preparing" phase. When that happens, I google Time Machine + preparing and it tells me what to do. I don't even need to remember since Google finds it for me in Apple support.
Best wishes.

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
4. Should work fine.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:58 PM
Feb 2020

Time machine should happily back up to a partition on an external disk, as long as you've formatted it for a Mac filesystem. Don't even think about trying to get it to use a Windows NT or DOS or Linux partition

Btw, things to think about:

- Maybe encrypt the backup. Time machine can save to an encrypted backup, but you have to set it up that way when you start the backups, not after you've been using it for a while. Consider the panic of having your backup drive stolen.

- You can easily exclude directories in time machine so you don't waste time/space backing up files you can easily recreate from other sources.

- You can have multiple backup drives and it'll round-robin the backups. Disks fail, even backup disks.

- Many external disks are bus-powered and small enough to easily fit in a bank safe-deposit box. Consider a small fire (or flood) in the room that houses both your computer and backup disks. Consider occasional swapping with an offsite. Or copy the most important files into the cloud as well as time machine.

One other word of advice I'd have is to have time machine show it's status in the system menu bar, and try and avoid sleeping or powering off the machine if it's in the middle of a backup. Also there's a "feature" where you can only easily trigger a backup (Back Up Now) via the time machine system menu.

Humor: I still miss my 8mm Exabyte tape drive. 2Gig on a cheap tape. Pretty cool for the day.

eppur_se_muova

(36,307 posts)
5. Thanks, I'm basically ready to just hook one up and format it for three partitions.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

TM seems like it should be pretty to use, as long as you know what you *want* to do. I just worry how to partition the SSDs I'm using, and whether there's anything I should really avoid.

Those are all useful thoughts. In an ideal world I'd probably use all of them.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
7. Time machine saved my ass more than once already
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:43 PM
Apr 2020

I had a couple crashes where I would have lost everything if I had not backed up to Time Machine. I had a couple times where OS X had gotten so badly corrupted that I had to wipe and reinstall. Each time my data loss was minimal due to having Time Machine backups.

Also Time Machine is very useful when migrating from one machine to a new one. Just plug in time machine and it will copy everything you want over.

I'm not sure if the other boot drives will work and it would take some hitting up of the googles to be sure. I think with multi-partition drives it will only back up a single partition. But I'm not sure and would recommend doing research on that.

Time machine is only part of my backup strategy. Due to the limited size of Mac hard disks these past few years I bought a custom built PC in 2015 with a 2tb drive and put a copy of Ubuntu on it (I did that as they only included the OS if one specifically asked for it). It works well as a file server I copy things over to that server which I back up to a local external hard disk and also back up via CrashPlan to the cloud. Even though CrashPlan is officially for business I use them because they support backing up from Linux devices where Carbonite's consumer solution does not.

As cheap as external drives are now I don't think there's any reason not to backup devices.

(I work in IT and I remember the days when a 3gb drive took up a full server cabinet worth of space).

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
8. My backup routine using Time Machine
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:33 AM
Apr 2020

I would suggest you, go to Apple.com and use the Support area called Community, where Apple techs and users post tips under a wide rage of topics. Best to login with your Apple ID so you can know when a reply is posted to your questions. Here is a link to the macOS community searching for Time Machine posts...

https://discussions.apple.com/search?q=Time+Machine

Here's my backup setup:
A 2TB GeForce with USB & Firewire800 has 3 partitions.

One for Time Machine... I have one TM backup for HighSierra iMac and one for Catalina iMac. I have two iMacs running.
One for a manual Archive (Drag & Drop)... May be best method for your Linux projects.
One is a bootable, that I run Catalina on. Migration Assistant imported everything I needed from older iMac.

I run Time Machine every Sunday morning as I watch Meet The Press, it's a routine for me.
Good luck.

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