I'm Voting FOR Obama But Also Voting Against...

[Kath1]

Tax cuts for the rich (familiar Republican theme), racism, sexism, war, corporate welfare, global warming, greed, those who would take away reproducive rights, those who would slash social programs, etc. In other words, I'll be voting against whoever the Republicans nominate!

[stockholmer]

1. you might want to remove war, corporate welfare and slashing of social programmes from your list

Plenty of all those coming over the next 5 years, regardless of 2012.

[DevonRex]

2. No, her list is correct. Thanks

for playing.

[stockholmer]

4. not, it is not, thanks for dreaming

[nofurylike]

9. your sig line would have led me to believe you understand dialectic, stockholmer.

do you think we'd do better all settling for all gutter all the time?

[stockholmer]

12. not settling for the gutter is a core value of my posts

There are many paths to the gutter, and false paradigms are amongst the most insidious. Life is too short to stop being idealistic.

[nofurylike]

13. demanding all stars, despite that being impossible for anyone, ever,

under threat of throwing everyone back into all gutter with a lid slammed over it, is not idealistic.

President Obama is forced to deal with the same gutter as you and i are. to get as much stars as he has gotten us, in this climate, is outstanding. it will take some time to turn it to more stars than gutter. but if one perceives idealism as settling for nothing BUT stars, when one is most undeniably also in the gutter with the rest of all of us, why bother doing what really is pretending to be idealistic, for one's own comfort, at all?

the point about dialectic is that we have only two choices if we choose to stay alive at all: dialectic or destruction of all by the most violent. if one will not participate in that, if one prefers to ruin all progress for all, why would anyone consider THAT being idealistic?

i have more pure ideals than you or anyone else here does. there is no way i am going to settle for their not being manifested from moment one to CAUSE them all to be dashed completely and forever. - as repukes intend to do if self-defined idealists, most of whom actually yearn to be dictators, keep giving them more power.

thank you for discussing, stockholmer.

[DevonRex]

3. That is exactly right.

For Obama and against republicans. They were scary tonight in the debate. I can't see why anyone wouldn't at least vote against them.

[BlueCaliDem]

5. I'm there with you! I'll add, for progressive SCOTUS justices

because we know we won't get any with a Romney or Newt, and there might be 3 justices retiring in the next five years. We need to ensure Obama is in the WH when that happens so we can tip the courts back to the progressives.

[Kath1]

6. Absolutely Right

That definitely makes the list!

[BlueCaliDem]

11. Thanks!

I'm going to vote for President Obama's reelection for more than progressive justices for SCOTUS, but that's definitely my number one reason.

If we fail, and he's not reelected, we can see an erosion of civil rights, women's right to choose, more corporate power, maybe they'll even decree Corporations will have the right to vote in elections AND because they're larger than a single human, maybe their vote counts for, say, ten people? Sounds too fantastic? Who would've guessed Citizens United could've passed and corporations, foreign and domestic, could lawfully give unlimited dollars to campaigns?

The Roberts court is the WORST court in history, and we need to cancel out his and his cronies' power before things get even worse.

[LostinRed]

7. I agree

More than anything else that is what drives my vote. The fact is the SCOTUS is the most powerful branch of the Government and right now it tilts way too far to the right. Obama two picks were great. We don't want any more Alitos or Roberts on the court.

[Kath1]

10. "We don't want any more Alitos or Roberts on the court."

You are soooo right about that! I think Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan have been Excellent choices.

I shudder to think what sort of appointments Newt or Mitt would attempt.

[nofurylike]

8. great! very well said!!

you speak for me, Kath1!
thank you for posting that!