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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:35 PM Dec 2015

BARACK OBAMA GROUP, please read SOP! Did you all see the article about Hagel ?

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http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/12/18/hagel-the-white-house-tried-to-destroy-me

It's not pretty. I'm NOT trying to say he is telling the truth, but it's out there. I ran into this on Facebook.
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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. The site is a pain in the ass, can you excerpt a few paragraphs of the allegations?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:42 PM
Dec 2015

Before I even see them, I am certain nothing the Obama admin comes close or within a MILLION MILES of what was daily routine behaviour by W and Raygun and so on.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
2. well, I'm reluctant to do it because he said some really unkind stuff
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:44 PM
Dec 2015

He's either really pissed off at President Obama or he's a huge liar or both.

In an exclusive interview, Chuck Hagel said the Obama administration micromanaged the Pentagon, stabbed him in the back on the way out -- and still has no strategy for fixing Syria.


That's the very short summary off Facebook.

And yes, I agree with you about PBO vs. Darth Cheney and GWB.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. Well, there can be some truth to it, I suppose. Remember, the shit most administrations
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

pull would make most people blush.

Obama does not destroy people for the fun of it, that much I know.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
4. I'm quite confident PBO treated him fairly and with respect.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:47 PM
Dec 2015

Hagel has a different interpretation, to be sure. He'll never get another job with a Democratic administration, that much is certain.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. Every time he hired a con for his admin or whatever, it just pissed me off. He bent over SO far
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:48 PM
Dec 2015

to be inclusive and fair and he has NEVER been rewarded for it.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,128 posts)
6. Obama keeps many things regarding the "terror" struggle close to the vest.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:36 PM
Dec 2015

It's almost impossible to know the overall strategy. But I did read a very positive assessment last weekend linked by "The Discussionist" recommended while DU was moving files.

The Quiet Grand Strategy of Barack Obama
Are the president's diplomatic initiatives winning a new American Century? (Via TomDispatch.com)

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-quiet-grand-strategy-of-barack-obama/


I think Obama is thinking and working grand scale and people like Hagel think very small and specific. Whatever is the reason Obama won't clarify his use of the term ISIL while just about every news outlet refers to ISIS? It would help defend his positions to have his reasoning and why its important. But his opting not to give us the reason might be part of the strategy. I trust his judgement more than any other's in or out of Washington.

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