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nygurl

(33 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:54 AM Apr 2016

Took a walk on the dark side tonight

Posted a challenge to campaign-promulgated wildly exaggerated crowd size estimates in Washington Square. 27,000!! 48,000!!! (Which are, by the way, being reported as news on MSNBC.) Camera crews with ABC-TV estimated 6,500 in the park and 5,000 outside. Look at the shots -- many areas empty, for media or security, or filled with bushes.
For my efforts I got promoted to Brock sock puppet, and new Hillary poster as part-time campaign staff. On my way home I almost got run down by a phalanx of hooua-ing bike-riding boys leaving the rally.
I have a lingering creepy feeling, the same one that made me start posting. The deep misogyny, thinly-veiled violence (or not so thin: "DRAG HER!!!&quot , the left's version of Trump fanatics. And their leader. I knew guys like Bernie many years ago, slick talkers with run-of-the-mill lefty views, angry, arrogant, unproductive, entitled. As ever, I am most surprised that all of this is not patently obvious to everyone, especially after the last two weeks. Go know.

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Took a walk on the dark side tonight (Original Post) nygurl Apr 2016 OP
Awesome righteous rant, nygurl! Sorry, you almost got run down by BSrs.. Cha Apr 2016 #1
Just an event for many of these youngsters. A cheap date. oasis Apr 2016 #2
Who doesn't like a gathering? TMontoya Apr 2016 #3
It's the strangest thing....I think enthusiasm is great, but... LisaM Apr 2016 #4
Was it a planned rally? TMontoya Apr 2016 #5
Sure, but I don't know how far in advance LisaM Apr 2016 #16
I imagine they were NYU students, since it was at NYU. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #6
The subtle racism and anti-Obama sentiment Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2016 #7
I saw this as well Sunsky Apr 2016 #9
There's something mystic about the number 27 with the Sanders mob. stopbush Apr 2016 #10
Very interesting observation Sunsky Apr 2016 #17
They're not even bothering to hide it NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #13
The bad music choices is perhaps the greatest offense! LOL!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2016 #15
The alt rock band Vampire Weekend was the headliner at rally! yallerdawg Apr 2016 #8
If you don't know any Led Zep, then you aren't really playing music. Loki Apr 2016 #12
Vampire Weekend!? Haveadream Apr 2016 #18
Bernies Insane Clown Posse Loki Apr 2016 #11
I went by there as well...just curious to see if the Berners were as vile as people have said... anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #14
You are back from the front! Haveadream Apr 2016 #19
The New York City Police estimated the crowd to be less than half that 27,000, and observers... George II Apr 2016 #20

oasis

(49,389 posts)
2. Just an event for many of these youngsters. A cheap date.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:08 AM
Apr 2016

I don't expect any big surge for Bernie at the voting venues.

 

TMontoya

(369 posts)
3. Who doesn't like a gathering?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:32 AM
Apr 2016

Thats what a lot of these people see it as, sure a lot are there to hear him speak but a large portion are there simply because its trendy and had live music. So to a lot it was a party. But either way those speeches tonight were pretty ridiculous. "Corporate Whore", "Drag Her", "Revolution". I guess Hillary can't match to up to such influential political heavyweights like Rosario Dawson Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon.

After this coming Tuesday it will be all but over, thats reserved for the 26th when the final hammer drops on the nail.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
4. It's the strangest thing....I think enthusiasm is great, but...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:38 AM
Apr 2016

there's a strangeness about it. It's as if they all just got a text message to show up, kind of flash moblike. It's a curated spontaneity - it seems spontaneous but there is also something orchestrated and spooky.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
16. Sure, but I don't know how far in advance
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

In Washington state they kept adding rallies, then went places like the Springsteen concert the night before to push attendance.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
6. I imagine they were NYU students, since it was at NYU.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:09 AM
Apr 2016

No Sanders supporters are providing links for that 48k figure, and the 27k figure came straight from the BS campaign via a press release.

Like you, the only independent estimate I saw reported was 11,500:

Sanders held a rally in Washington Square Park, which was closed all day Wednesday at the request of the Secret Service. 6,500 people were estimated to be in the park for the rally with an additional 5,000 supporters outside the park for a total of 11,500.

http://abc7ny.com/politics/bernie-sanders-holds-big-rally-in-washington-square-park/1288865/

And of course, the rally was held at NYU, to be closer to BS's base. As is typical at BS rallies, most of the audience was young:

The crowd -- largely comprised of young people -- filled the park and crowded the adjacent streets. Many people -- visible from the windows -- also viewed the rally from apartments and New York University buildings surrounding the park.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/bernie-sanders-kicks-off-star-studded-massive-rally/story?id=38377917

The student population at New York University is 57,245. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University NYU is a huge University. So, I would imagine the bulk of the attendees were NYU students. And considering the size of the student body available to attend this rally, 11,500 was not all that much.




 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
7. The subtle racism and anti-Obama sentiment
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:34 AM
Apr 2016

is apparent too!

Look Mom, BS got more votes...I mean, supporters than the Negro president.

They're so fucking transparent.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
9. I saw this as well
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016

Rolled my eyes when I saw the 27k number because they just had to put it up a notch over Obama's 24k. I'm so done with this BS.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
10. There's something mystic about the number 27 with the Sanders mob.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

$27 donations, 27,000 (sic) people at a rally, etc.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
13. They're not even bothering to hide it
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

Racism, misogyny, and just plain hatred for all things non-Bernie.

Plus, they don't know good music.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. The alt rock band Vampire Weekend was the headliner at rally!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:51 AM
Apr 2016

I'd bet they were good for several thousand!

I saw where someone in crowd asked if they knew any Led Zeppelin songs - like they were a bar band!

The lead singer expressed some hipster disdain at the shout with a disdainful, "Sorry, we don't know any Led Zeppelin."

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
18. Vampire Weekend!?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

I just listened to that. No, no, no. That explains everything. Now I know why they have no soul.

OTOH, Led Zeppelin is always epic.



Loki

(3,825 posts)
11. Bernies Insane Clown Posse
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

Our very own version of the Trumpsters. If I was their mother, this would not have a good ending.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
14. I went by there as well...just curious to see if the Berners were as vile as people have said...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

I hope I wasn't counted as a supporter! And yes, there was much trash talk and blatantly sexist chanting. For some reason this sort of crowd does seem to feel more entitled than the average voter. I miss the old days of Democratic campaigns where it's obvious most people care first about others. Hopefully Hillary will continue Obama's leadership in this regard.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
19. You are back from the front!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

There was anti-Hillary chanting? That is very depressing. If only it were antiTrump but alas, no.

Thank you for attending on behalf of the Hillary Team!

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. The New York City Police estimated the crowd to be less than half that 27,000, and observers...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

....said that many in the crowd were NYU students and out of towners. Washington Square Park is surrounded by NYU dormitories.

The Sanders rallies and the crowd they attract are looking more and more like Trump rallies..

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