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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:05 PM Apr 2016

Jane calls closed NY primary "silly."

Geez, she and Bern, Johnny-come-at-the-last-minute Democrats are really feeling their oats. Yep, let's open the primaries to non-Democrats who recently elected a Republican judge.

"We have a lot of those—probably a lot of those people out there in the crowd—hopefully a small number, comparatively, are not even able to vote in this election because they didn't change their registration to Democrat last October when they hadn't even heard of Bernie Sanders," Jane Sanders said. "Those kinds of things seem silly. We're bringing more a lot more people into the party and the party is shutting the door on them. That seems counterproductive to the long-term goals."

"I guess what we've done is keep a very positive outlook and looking forward to changing the system," she added. "If he is the president and the head of the democratic party, we'll be changing the system to make it more Democratic."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jane-sanders-concerned-ny-primary

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Jane calls closed NY primary "silly." (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
No, silly is claiming you can't find your tax returns. nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #1
HAHA workinclasszero Apr 2016 #3
And expecting everyone to believe you.n/t livetohike Apr 2016 #5
Very silly workinclasszero Apr 2016 #7
She was just on MSNBC (12:30 EST) saying she's going to Rome with Bernie... George II Apr 2016 #12
My guess is... sarae Apr 2016 #34
Maybe they'll find them in the Vatican vault SharonClark Apr 2016 #47
I actually call that "lying". KittyWampus Apr 2016 #13
democratic enid602 Apr 2016 #2
Nails it. eom fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #39
I cannot stand her. Never heard of her before livetohike Apr 2016 #4
I know. LisaM Apr 2016 #6
I don't see how anyone could like her. n/t livetohike Apr 2016 #24
She bilked Burlington College out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, and maybe cost them... George II Apr 2016 #14
Good analogy George! Tammy Faye and all that crying she livetohike Apr 2016 #23
I had to check that out. Amazing how the media doesn't. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #30
Bingo! Leftwing hustlers, hawking their political wares on TeeVee. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #33
Thank you for saying that. I agree totally. In fact, justhanginon Apr 2016 #15
It's nice to know that I am not the only one who livetohike Apr 2016 #22
No, Jane, you really haven't BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #8
+1 2naSalit Apr 2016 #11
In primary after primary the turnout has been lower than that of 2008 (not all). If... George II Apr 2016 #16
Good point! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #18
They manipulate the information to suit them. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #31
Both Trump and Sanders - the outsiders - complain the same. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #9
She's lying through her teeth on MSNBC to Andrea Mitchell SaschaHM Apr 2016 #10
I just saw that, and it was disgusting. Lie after lie - I couldn't remember them all there were.... George II Apr 2016 #17
Andrea Mitchell has always been a poor excuse of a reporter. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #32
That makes me laugh... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #19
We don't find it silly..... Historic NY Apr 2016 #20
This is a preview to the primary results. Maybe what was silly was back at the time the deadline Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #21
How does giving Independents a Primary vote Haveadream Apr 2016 #25
The Revolution hates Democratic Solidarity like ALEC hates unions. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #35
Excellent insight! Haveadream Apr 2016 #38
And what is being unable to print your taxform? Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #26
Spoken like a true independent WhiteTara Apr 2016 #27
Good Jane apcalc Apr 2016 #28
What's silly CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #29
SHE is silly DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #36
You want to see silly, Jane, have a look in the mirror. eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #37
They should JOIN THE FUCKING PARTY, Jane. (Is that clear enough for you?) NurseJackie Apr 2016 #40
Is she a Democrat? DesertRat Apr 2016 #41
Go back to Vermont, Jane and take what his name with you. leftofcool Apr 2016 #42
Allowing Republicans to choose the Democrats' candidate based on beatability is "democratic"? jmowreader Apr 2016 #43
Silly is not reminding your followers to register to vote in time, properly. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #44
Jane is "silly". Cha Apr 2016 #45
Pathetic liberal N proud Apr 2016 #46

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. She was just on MSNBC (12:30 EST) saying she's going to Rome with Bernie...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

..and they'll put in a full day of campaigning in NY on Saturday.

So I guess this tax return BS is just that - BS. My guess is we'll see them in a few weeks.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
34. My guess is...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

they're waiting until after the NY primary to release...which means there's something in there that won't reflect well on them.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
4. I cannot stand her. Never heard of her before
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

and hope she fades away soon. There is something about her that grates on my nerves.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. She bilked Burlington College out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, and maybe cost them...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

...millions with her phony real estate deals (aka bank fraud!)

I wouldn't be surprised if she's the "brains" (taken loosely) behind this campaign.

They remind me of a political, 21st Century Jim and Tammy Faye Baker.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
23. Good analogy George! Tammy Faye and all that crying she
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

would do. Still waiting for the vetting to get rolling on both of them. Wouldn't all of that Burlington college info be interesting?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
33. Bingo! Leftwing hustlers, hawking their political wares on TeeVee.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

The hubris boggles the mind.

They opportunistically and reluctantly joined a Party that they openly denigrated just months ago, and now they're going to remake it in their own image. To hell with anybody else's view.

Un-frigging-believable. Get out the stage hook. Their time is up.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
15. Thank you for saying that. I agree totally. In fact,
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

I cannot stand Bernie the Magnificent One, his wife or (unfairly I know) if they have a dog, I probably can't the stand the damn dog either! What he has done to the Democratic party and the way he has handled his campaign is beyond disgusting to me. Any comments on his "supporters" is probably superfluous at this point as their rude and hateful behavior speaks for itself.

I have had it with disrespectful phonies and certainly hope at the end of this primary season we end up with an actual true Democrat for the nominee, that being Secretary Hillary Clinton.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
22. It's nice to know that I am not the only one who
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:55 PM
Apr 2016

feels this way about both of them. I love dogs. Theirs, if they have one, is probably sick of them too.

Phony and scammers. Wouldn't doubt they are hiding much of the campaign money away for personal use.

There are going to be many disillusioned people here once the maid are ripped off these two.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
8. No, Jane, you really haven't
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

"brought a lot more people into the party."

What you have done is to attract a very large number of Independents and Libertarians who may at the last minute possible register as Democrat simply to vote for Bernie as a spoiler candidate in the primary, but who have no intention whatsoever of being Democrats and actually detest everything that the Democratic Party stands for. These are primarily "Bernie-or Busters."

I apologize in advance to those SBS supporters who are sincere supporters of Bernie rather than simply being Hillary haters as the "Bernie-or-Busters" are. There are also certainly many new voters who have been brought into the Dem party because they have been inspired by Bernie's words but who also understand the very dangerous threat posed by the GOP and will vote for the Dem candidate to thwart the GOP. There are also certainly Dem-leaning Independents who have also been inspired by those words - which very much needed to be said. I am very happy that Bernie's words are now part of the mainstream political discourse and have every reason to believe that Hillary is too.

But if you run as a candidate for a political party, you have to follow the rules of that party. Period.

The mere fact that you (Jane) believe that these rules should be changed now - when they never bothered you before Bernie's run for the WH as a latter-day Dem - indicates an incredible amount of self-entitlement and privilege on your part, as well as abysmal ignorance for why the rules exist in the first place.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. In primary after primary the turnout has been lower than that of 2008 (not all). If...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

..they're bringing people into the party, why aren't they voting for him????

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. Both Trump and Sanders - the outsiders - complain the same.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

"It's not fair that we can't crash their party."

Of, course, this resonates with independents, and those who failed to properly register.

These two have no problem with breaking the parties they 'profess' to belong to - which would make them liars, a trait I don't want in a president.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
10. She's lying through her teeth on MSNBC to Andrea Mitchell
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

And Mitchell isn't even challenging her. I don't know who I hate more. Delegate lie. Check. Momentum BS. Check. Superdelegate going for Bernie lie. Check. Unqualified lie. Check. Vatican lie. Check.

I'm glad that Bernie Sanders will never be president.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. I just saw that, and it was disgusting. Lie after lie - I couldn't remember them all there were....
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:39 PM
Apr 2016

...so many. Thanks for mentioning just a few.

The worst probably is that Sanders wasn't at the rally last night when Song called Hillary Clinton a whore.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
20. We don't find it silly.....
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

once you examine the "history of voting" in this state.

People complaining about party enrollment, should be reminded that Bernie Sanders announced May 26, 2015, in Burlington, Vermont, he was running. He previously made other announcements in April that appeared in the media. I guess its wasn't important enough to make sure you changed enrollment by Oct. 9. 2015.

Every County BoE is duty bound under NY Constitution to notify every registered voter of the time and places of all elections and the place where you vote. They are responsible for updating and maintaining the voter rolls, which are used in all school board, state, local, special district elections.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. This is a preview to the primary results. Maybe what was silly was back at the time the deadline
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

was approaching to change one's party Sanders was not using some of his yuuuge rallies to inform his followers they needed to change their party registration. One can register however they please, just accept whatever comes with that decision.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
25. How does giving Independents a Primary vote
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

bring more people into the Democratic party? That simply encourages more people to be unaffiliated. The thought of BS being the 'head of the democratic party' is nauseating. He hates us.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
29. What's silly
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

is running for President in a party you clearly don't believe in. What's been exposed as this campaign goes along is that Bernie considers the Democratic party every bit as wretched as the Republicans, which makes this charade of him being a Democrat until the convention a black stain on his supposed spotless record.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
36. SHE is silly
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

She needs to STFU and quit lying. DEMS need to close all primaries and caucuses. I'd prefer that we went to an all primary system, but still, CLOSE them. I actually think the same for the other side as well. Thing is, we are voting to select OUR party candidate. That means that the DEMOCRATS, not the Independents, Greens, or crossover Republicans should choose their candidate. Period.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. They should JOIN THE FUCKING PARTY, Jane. (Is that clear enough for you?)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

She's obviously an intelligent woman, why can't she understand this?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
43. Allowing Republicans to choose the Democrats' candidate based on beatability is "democratic"?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Jane, your husband's voters in Wisconsin put a teabagger on the state supreme court. If the kind of people his campaign is drawing in succeeds in inflicting your husband on the Democratic Party for November, half of them won't vote at all and the other half will vote for Donald Trump.

And shouldn't you be in the kitchen right now, logging onto TurboTax to download your tax returns?

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
46. Pathetic
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

They fail to understand the rules as they are laid before it starts, then complain because they are loosing.

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