Let's see if I have this right

[jmowreader]

While Hillary was researching the real needs of the poor in Harlem and raising funds in San Francisco so downticket Democrats can more effectively compete against Koch-funded Republicans and teabaggers, Bernie spent $600,000 of his fans' hard-earned money to stalk the Pope.

[Fresh_Start]

1. Please stop.

This type of dialogue benefits no one.

[jmowreader]

4. Neither does Bernie helping the Republicans build talking points for the general

[Fresh_Start]

6. I understand and agree

I have alerted posts on both sides of the primary where I felt the harm exceeded the benefit.
Yours did not cross that line.
But its painful to see the swipes and jabs at the 'other' when we should all be working toward a common goal of a better society.

[misterhighwasted]

9. There was only one candidate out working for the good of people this week

Hillary Clinton.
Sanders spent $600 g working for his own optics.
Not one thing came out of that visit with the intent of benefitting others lives.
Except his own.

He should never speak again of Hillary's "obscene $600,000 speaking fees."

That would be a blatant hypocrisy.

[Fresh_Start]

10. I don't believe that

I think they are both trying to do 'good'...but they have different understanding about what that means and how it will be achieved.

[misterhighwasted]

16. Don't believe what? It is exactly as it happened.

You're in the wrong group to defend Sanders latest PR stunt.
Exactly what did Sandwrs $600,000 papal excursion do to benefit the people of, oh say, Harlem?
What was his 10 minute speech about?
What resounding enlightenment did he lay on the watching world?
That's right, We Will Never Know because it was a closed conference.
A visit with the Pope?
Nope! He stalked him & got a handshake as he was leaving.

No conversation, no talk of economic wisdom.

Tell me who this guilded trip benefitted again?
Bernie Sanders & his PR team, that's all.

This is a case of "All hat, no cattle".
Bernie Sanders blew through $600,000 for a PR campaign & he dare accuse of Hillary of her speaking fees.

Appears Sanders did the same.
$600,000 for a 10 minute speech.
Woopdee Doo bernie. Looks like he's finally part of the club.

[Cha]

24. Well you're wrong.. you need to study up on it.

[metroins]

28. Not at all.

Bernie is in it for himself.

Has not helped other Democrats get elected.

Has not started his "revolution" until 30 years into his political career.

Asks for donations for a campaign that won't win.

Look, he was is a decent Senator, but he has been no champion of Democrats or a moving force in politics. I didn't mind him until he started hurting our front runner, just like the Republicans do and the false pedestal his supporters currently put him on.

The donations people have given him just went towards a family trip and the money he spends is ridiculous attacking Hillary.

[Astrid_g]

31. Ohhh riiiight...

'Cuz Bernie should have learned to play the game and raised money for Dems so that they would feel gratitude for him, and then he could call in favors... Like the mafia.

Lots of Dem Superdelegates have pledged to HRC because they "owe" their careers to her or because they need to be re-elected... Hillary planted these seeds long ago, and not out of the kindness of her heart, and not because she really cares about her party, but to try to secure her own nomination.

The fact that no one owes/owns Bernie is a SELLING POINT!

[metroins]

33. No.

We are a representative government.

Unfortunately, the Obama presidency and timing hit a nerve with a segment of our population (not his fault) that caused sweeping losses in our Congress.

The Clinton's are helping the Democrats take back the seats lost. We are not a dictatorship, we need real coordinated party support to progress. She planted the seeds long ago and that's how things change.

Hillary is ahead by 2.5 million or more votes and is winning the swing states. This is how progress occurs.

[jmowreader]

35. Bernie agreed to raise money for downticket Dems when he signed up to run as a Democrat

The fact that Bernie is accepting the party's money, using the party's data, and doing nothing to help the party is not a "selling point."

And you are in the Hillary Clinton group. Leave.

[sister_rosa_refried]

43. Welcome, dear.

Now please take a hike.

[anotherproletariat]

37. I'm thinking he ran because he is eyeing retirement and wants to be in demand

for paid speeches once he leaves the senate.

[jmowreader]

38. After the shit he's pulled, would YOU hire him to give a speech?

[LiberalFighter]

40. Not too many would want too.

And his wife would be further down on that list.

[LiberalFighter]

41. His demand would be very limited after the stunts he has pulled.

[yallerdawg]

18. If Bernie had been my candidate of choice...

he wouldn't be getting one red cent from me ever again!

That's how offensive and vile this little European adventure is.

[misterhighwasted]

19. Same here. Livin Large on minimum wage workers dime.

Welcome to the millionaires club bernie!

I would be feeling like I had been scammed.
Didn't even get a, "Thanks for all your hard earned Tip Money, kids".
#GTFObernie

[2naSalit]

26. Not to mention

the wages of all the secret service detail we taxpayers funded on the trip which would include travel pay, overtime pay, lodging and food for the detail times how many agents?

See the problem there? Not only did his followers/supporters pay for part of that trip, even those who aren't in a position to donate had to help pay for that trip. And you know they were there when you watch any video of the Bern on his trip. Niceties aside, we all got burned on that little stunt.

[George II]

32. Those who swipes were made at most likely aren't Democrats or will be voting for Clinton anyway.

[Her Sister]

5. HRC GROUP!

thanks for the concern! Mucho nice!

[question everything]

17. Looks like this poster IS a supporter

let him express his opinion..

[Cha]

23. The truth getting out certainly does not help BS.. I'll give ya that. But, it helps our

Democracy.

[MarianJack]

2. Sounds about right to me!

Back Bench Bernie will be DONE within a few more weeks!

PEACE!

[Her Sister]

3. sounds about right!

in the meantime BSers tried to hurt Real DEMS by protesting at the Clooney-Amal's house's fundraiser!

[2naSalit]

27. +1

[Tommy2Tone]

7. Not stalking, they are bff's.

Did you not get the Bern memo?

[jmowreader]

8. I berned it before I read it, sorry

[misterhighwasted]

13. Apparantly the Pope didn't get the memo either

Whoa. Even Pope Francis isn't feeling the bern!

LIE
"We had an opportunity to meet with him this morning," Sanders said. "It was a real honor for me, for my wife and I to spend some time with him. I think he is one of the extraordinary figures not only in the world today but in modern world history."

Sanders said he had the chance to tell the pope that "I was incredibly appreciative of the incredible role that he is playing in this planet in discussing issues about the need for an economy based on morality, not greed."

According to the senator, he got to meet with the pope and "spend some time with him".


Except here's what actually happened...according to Pope Francis:

TRUTH
"This morning when I left, Sen. Sanders was there. ... He knew I was leaving at that time and I had the kindness to greet him and his wife and another couple who were with them," the pope told reporters traveling back with him to the Vatican.

"When I came down, I greeted them, shook their hands and nothing more. This is good manners. It's called good manners and not getting mixed up in politics. If anyone thinks that greeting someone means getting involved in politics, they should see a psychiatrist," the pope said.



This sounds like more of an ambush, actually...or at best, a brief fanboy moment on the ropeline.

And it also sounds like the pope isn't too amused that a certain losing presidential campaign in America is desperately trying to use him as a pawn to gain a few votes.

http://www.hillaryhq.com/?m=1

[mcar]

11. But Hillary is bad!!11

[Lucinda]

12. Sounds about right.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

14. Sounds about right! And I voted early today in MD!!

[Her Sister]

20. Congratulations!! and THANK YOU!!!!

For voting today!!! Woooohoooo!!!

[Haveadream]

22. Thank you Liberal_Stalwart71!!!!

[NastyRiffraff]

34. Beat you!

I voted on the 14th the first early voting day!

It felt great! At the campaign tables, there were no Bernie supporters, and no Republicans at all. Hillary was the only presidential candidate whose supporters bothered manning the tables.

[question everything]

15. This is really the main differene

which someone pointed out in a mailing list where he and I are the sole Clinton supporters:

That Sanders has done nothing and will do nothing to help the down ticket. Why should he? He is not a Democrat.

Would be nice if his handful of super delegates would nudge him..

[DemonGoddess]

21. Yep

you have it right. Sickening ain't it?

[Treant]

25. On the up side,

Bernie blew an amount that's greater than Clinton spent on many of the Primaries for a lark that doesn't seem to be moving the needle in any positive direction.

Quite the opposite; one site I'm on, where the Pope is not popular, is seeing some Bernie defections today. Most are simply not going to vote in the NY/PA primaries.

[Iliyah]

30. Many people know why he went to the Vatican. Catholics votes.

Catholics I recently spoke with said it was a lousy political move.

[rock]

29. I believe you have summarized it nicely

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. I think you sum it up quite nicely.

[liberal N proud]

39. Yeah but Bernie earned that $600000 $27 at a time.

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[jmowreader]

42. Ya got a couple extra zeroes in there

I HOPE he didn't spend $60 million on this crap - where would he get the money to make his monthly troll payment if he did?

[liberal N proud]

44. Damn tablet keypad.