Hillary Clinton
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http://thedailybanter.com/2015/06/why-hillary-clinton-is-wisely-resisting-bernie-sanders-political-strategy/------snipped the first part-----------
Since her campaign began, Hillary Clinton has wisely embraced President Obama, and advocated for policies that appeal to voters in the Obama coalition, particularly black voters. It should be lost on no one that, with the eyes of the world watching the Supreme Court, Hillary chose to send an image in which she is literally embracing President Obama. The lingering bad blood from the 2008 Democratic primary presented an uphill climb for Clinton, and she has climbed it steadily.
What makes Hillarys continued, conspicuous embrace of President Obama remarkable is the pressure that the media is applying for her to abandon him, in the form of so-called Bernie-mentum. Ever since Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) announced his candidacy for president, liberal media types have been hyping Sanders as a stalking horse for Clinton. Then, the mainstream media got into the act by hyping poll results designed to heighten Hillarys anxiety, polls with a rather unmistakable message.
First, there were a pair of polls showing Bernie Sanders within long-range spitting of Hillary in New Hampshire and Iowa, the first two states to vote in the primary. This was how the political media was framing both candidates visits to South Carolina last week, on the eve of the racist terrorist attack that eclipsed the entire nation. At the same time, Quinnipiac swing-state polls were being hyped to show alleged weakness for Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania (in Ohio, only Gov. John Kasich beat her head-to-head, while in Pennsylvania, Clinton got edged by Rand Paul and Marco Rubio).
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Sanders lack of appeal to black voters makes him the de facto candidate for a strong block of white Democratic voters who either reject, or place a very low priority, on policies like police reform, voting rights, and immigration. Hes also the beneficiary of a political media thats eager to take Hillary Clinton down several pegs, and will hype any bit of good polling news to do it.
The fact is, though, that Bernie Sanders cannot hurt Hillary Clinton, only Hillary Clinton can do that. There will be no disappointed Bernie Sanders voters who will end up voting Republican in 2016. There may be some who stay home if Hillary is nominated, but I doubt there are very many. The Obama coalition that she needs to turn out in 2016 are far more numerous than the white emoprogs who will sit out if Bernie isnt nominated.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)If you ask 100 people (voters) out on the street what they think about the TPP over 90 of them will -
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I think it was Krugman who said... it isn't as good as Obama thinks, and it won't be as bad as the critics say.
I agree with that. It certainly isn't the hair on fire: The end of the middle class!!!! I'm series!!!
Stuckinthebush
(10,847 posts)That's a new one for me.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)There's a time & place for all that. I'm sure that Sec Clinton knows by now that she is not going to be a media darling. Matt Iglesias was truthful in his piece where he chastised his colleagues for failing to admit the obvious: "Hillary Clinton is Popular", and he also admitted that "journalists just don't like her".
They really are hoping for a repeat of 2008, but there's just one problem with that: she has essentially inherited the Obama coalition.
okasha
(11,573 posts)and the real enemy. Bernie Sanders ain't it.
riversedge
(70,311 posts)up that word....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emoprog
Top Definition
emoprog
A pejorative used by hawkish, austerity-loving conservatives who think they're Liberals because they're not or barely not racist or anti-gay. Emoprogs make fake Democrat get their undies in a bunch because emoprogs insist that Democrats act like Democrats and not like Reagan Republicans.
Billy doesn't want to bomb Damascus with depleted uranium shells, he must be an emoprog.
Susie is an emoprog because she won't meet the republicans half-way on cutting Social Security earned benefits. But screw the elderly, I want a tax cut.
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**I think one fits better??
http://shoqvalue.com/an-extended-definition-of-emo-progressive-and-why-it-matters/
Emo Progressive
The Original Definition, reprinted from Urban Dictionary
Emo Progressive (or "emoprog" is a self-described liberal or progressive, often with strong libertarian leanings, whose primary political orientation is to be angry, dissatisfied and unhappy with the state of the nation at any given time, because in their view, liberal policies are not being implemented quickly enough or articulated forcefully enough. They have particular contempt for Democratic presidents.
Emoprogs are ideological purists who disdain compromise and incremental change, which they see as "selling out" classical liberal ideas like full employment, an end to all wars, state secrets, and liberal social policy.
Emoprogs dislike Republicans but reserve their greatest disdain for Democratic presidents, whom they relentlessly attack for not meeting a set of ideological goal posts that are constantly adjusted to ensure that the president will be deemed a disappointment, "not progressive enough" or "just like a Republican" no matter what policy achievements are made. ...........................
by DoctorSerizawa September 21, 2013
Cha
(297,730 posts)Emoprogs dislike Republicans but reserve their greatest disdain for Democratic presidents, whom they relentlessly attack for not meeting a set of ideological goal posts that are constantly adjusted to ensure that the president will be deemed a disappointment, "not progressive enough" or "just like a Republican" no matter what policy achievements are made
riversedge
(70,311 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)so many DUers. I wish they would form their own Emoprog Group and leave greater DU alone. Or maybe they could be voted onto that island by all the rest of the members.
However, I do worry about them. Do they have friends, are they close to their family, do they have healthy outlets for their anxiety/anger? I think for some DU may be all they have in the way of social interaction but they do make DU suck. As irritating as they are I still hope they are okay irl.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)there's something you don't see everyday. J/K
Also that 2nd definition really hit home, like with the part about relating to 3rd party politics while ignoring Congress's role. I saw a lot of that once when lurking on one FB page out of boredom, where posters were falsely equating the 2 parties and calling for a non-mainstream candidate to get in the fray (while not discussing how s/he would govern with Congress). It's enough to drive a politics-buff insane.
Cha
(297,730 posts)the majority on DU rec OPs like he's a "pos used car salesman" doesn't mean shite in real life.
Mahalo Nancy! Great ariticle~
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The author writes: "Ever since Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) announced his candidacy for president, liberal media types have been hyping Sanders as a stalking horse for Clinton."
I always understood the term in the sense given in the Wikipedia article:
No one is a stalking horse for Clinton when she's openly in the race herself.
I can't even figure out what the author was trying to say. Some people (not including me) might think that Sanders was a stalking horse for Elizabeth Warren, if Warren's protestations that she wasn't running were just a ploy. The "stalking horse" idea would be that, if Sanders's challenge to Clinton from the left did well, then Warren could enter the race, but stay out if Clinton fended off the challenge. That would make no sense in terms of everything we know about Warren. It also wouldn't fit with this passage, because I haven't seen any "liberal media types" raising that suggestion.
Does anyone have any guesses about what's meant?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)since it's a CT I've seen in some posts on FB by some ultra-ultra lefty types--that Bernie is only in the race to keep the left interested and energized about the election, and then when Clinton wins the primary, that heightened level of interest will transfer to HRC. People who fancy themselves clever say they've seen through this ruse and denounce Bernie as hopelessly compromised.
(I don't subscribe to this theory, I'm merely passing it on for information.)
Sancho
(9,070 posts)Hillary was with the Reverend the day he was killed, and attended the funeral. She is noticed by Obama supporters, and shows her true commitment to social justice.
The attacks on Hillary are relentless, but don't really change anything.
She hasn't criticized Obama on TPP, and I cannot believe that this President would negotiate and sign a trade agreement that really hurts American workers.
I also don't think he's stupid.
We'll see...