Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumBernie emailing folks: we don't have to win New York
https://mobile.twitter.com/markharrisnyc/status/721826143939207170He doesn't have to be the nominee either
Two votes in our household to help him not win New York.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)brush
(53,788 posts)enid602
(8,620 posts)Sadly, I think you're right. Bern just can't quite get himself to turn off the money spigot.
peggysue2
(10,832 posts)We don't need a win. This is Michigan all over again. Bernie will surge in the last few hours. Who made up this Math thing anyway???
Oh, Please send money.
Cha
(297,322 posts)MADem~
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)Not a pretty sight.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)next? Bargaining?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)either NY or CA.
#berniemath
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)and that will help him gain delegates how? Wow.
I suspect he thinks he can fight with the party and do essentially what the drumpf is hinting at, throwing the convention into chaos.
Yeah, I'm getting more excited about going offline for a spell, like until September. Meanwhile I'll be voting for Secretary Clinton in the primary when that comes around.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Momentum?
Treant
(1,968 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)applied a cream to that berning sensation!
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)...better not quit his day job.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)He'd look spiffy in that outfit.
hrc guy
(73 posts)revmclaren
(2,524 posts)Salutations!
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)until the madness ends.....
kjones
(1,053 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)Is he rigging the election? Or is he changing his name to Hillary Clinton?
Number23
(24,544 posts)My favorite: W. Munsen @Minuteman04
@TiaJohnson181 @MarkHarrisNYC @avengingmomgel He's looking really solid in West Dakota.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)That says a lot about the results of Bernie's internal polling.
Good to know!
athena
(4,187 posts)I'm on the Bernie Sanders e-mail list because early on in his campaign, before it turned ugly, I donated to him. (I supported both him and Hillary; I thought his goal was to help Hillary move left, not destroy her chances at winning the general.) Here is what it says (emphasis mine):
Here we come, athena One month ago, we were down 48 points in New York. With just two days to go until the primary, weve cut the lead in Hillary Clintons home state all the way down to six.
Gravis Poll - New York Democratic Primary
Hillary Clinton: 53%
Bernie Sanders: 47%
Heres the truth: we dont have to win New York on Tuesday, but we have to pick up a lot of delegates. This poll shows that if we keep fighting, we may actually have a chance to do both. Itd be the most shocking upset in modern political history. Thats why we have to ask:
Youve already made a contribution to Bernies campaign. If you match that, right now, we can win New York, win this primary, the White House, and take our country back from the billionaire class.
If you've saved payment info with ActBlue Express, your donation will go through immediately:
Express Donate: $10
Express Donate: $27
Express Donate: $50
Express Donate: $100
Express Donate: $250
Or, donate another amount
The political establishment was already in shock when last weeks debate in Brooklyn ended with the crowd chanting Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! after Bernies closing statement. On Hillary Clintons home turf! Can you imagine their panic if we do well on Tuesday night? And we can, but only if we keep fighting against the millionaires and billionaires funding Hillary Clintons campaign.
Add your contribution now.
In solidarity,
Jeff Weaver
Campaign Manager
Bernie 2016
It's clear that he doesn't expect to win New York. Otherwise, he would be saying, "We can win New York!" He wouldn't be trying to minimize the significance of the loss this early on.
ETA: I also get text messages from his supporters, which I find extremely annoying. I never asked his campaign to bother me with text messages.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Express Donate: $27
eom.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)revmclaren
(2,524 posts)When you REALLY, REALLY need to waste your money TODAY!
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)After tomorrow we never have to deal with that guy here again. He's Pennsylvania's problem for the next week.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Oh, wait...
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)still win this, blah blah blah.
athena
(4,187 posts)Given the math, arguing that Bernie can still win New York is a way to keep his supporters donating to him.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)continue to slander the Democratic Party and our front-runner. But those are mostly side-issues for him. I believe it's all about the money now since he's seen he can haul in $44 million a month and likes that gravy train to continue as long as it possibly can.
Fla Dem
(23,691 posts)This is exactly what turns young people off to politics and makes them apathetic voters as the grow older. Many of the Bernie fans have become so emotionally committed to this man. But he has led them down a path littered with false promises. This is just one more. They have been so blinded by his rhetoric, they can't see the race is over, and in fact has been over for a month. Yes Bernie won "8 out 9 of the last primaries" as he is quick to tell anyone who will listen, but those primaries wins didn't even put a dent in the delegate gap between him and HRC. Now add NY and PA and the other state primaries coming up where HRC is leading, and any sane person knows it's despicable for BS to keep telling his followers,"No, no, this primary doesn't matter, we'll win the next one. Oh and keep sending in your $27."
Was Bernie really in this for the idealism of his beliefs, or to generate funds so he could funnel money to his wife and stepdaughter in the form of salaries, or to fly to Rome on a campaign paid family holiday?
Whatever his motivation, Sanders has sold his acolytes a bill of goods by plying them with unattainable promises. Unfortunately, on July 28th many of them will wake up with a HUGE hangover. My fear is that all those young voters who happily sent Bernie whatever they could, will now be so put off by the deception and shenanigans of the Bernie bait and switch, they'll never become involved in the political process again and well lose a generation of progressive voters and candidates.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)it turns out that they are just a politician trying to gain power for themselves by saying whatever it takes to get the voters. Unfortunately the young voters are the most easily swayed, and not yet set in their ways politically. When it's all over, and they finally realize that the emperor has no clothes, they are either disillusioned and turn away from politics, or decide to try and work within the system we have to institute incremental change. Like it or not, this is how our democracy was set up by the men who wrote the rules almost 250 years ago.
I think one of the reasons we have such a low voter turn-out rate historically is because of those who were idealistic and then come to realized that our system is designed to work slowly, and that sudden change just doesnt happen. People want instant gratification, and if they dont see it coming, they withdraw. I expect that will happen to a fair number of Sanders supporters, but hopefully they will be able to put the blame where it belongs and not sabotage the Democratic nominee.
sarae
(3,284 posts)One person wrote: "Goalpost. Moved."
And the next person followed up with: "That goalpost has wheels and a jet engine at this point."
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)He is just collecting money now $27 at a time or at least that is how it will show in the books.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)And to provide a nice retirement fund for Weaver and Devine.
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)Yet he used campaign finances to pay for it.
They might have a problem with that!
Koinos
(2,792 posts)We probably won't hear about it until after the next FEC filing due date.
He may have to reach into his own pockets to repay the campaign for that disaster.
George II
(67,782 posts)20 states to go (actually 14) and less than 200 delegates behind (actually 210)
This is as crazy as that person that claimed Sander was going to win all 50 states.
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)"Nevermind"
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)About damn time
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Bernie emailing folks: we CAN'T win New York