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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:27 AM Apr 2016

Bernie sez "so what if I lose New York?"

cross posted in Gee-Dee-Pee--

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511767355

Bernie Sanders’ path to the nomination has narrowed to a sliver, and Tuesday’s primary in New York looks like it will squeeze it further. But the Vermont senator was defiant as he made the TV rounds on the eve of the crucial contest. His message: So what if I lose?

Sanders’ campaign in recent days has downplayed the importance of winning the popular vote in the delegate-rich state, pointing to Clinton's once gargantuan advantage in the polls shrinking to single digits by some counts.

"Those are the public polls. The bottom line is, let's look at the real poll tomorrow," Sanders told NBC's "Today" in the first of three in-studio interviews Monday morning. "Generally speaking, polling has underestimated how we do in elections."

The Sanders campaign blasted out an email Sunday night touting new poll numbers showing the senator within six points of Clinton, telling supporters that a victory in New York would be "the most shocking upset in modern political history."

"Here’s the truth: we don’t have to win New York on Tuesday, but we have to pick up a lot of delegates," campaign manager Jeff Weaver wrote. "This poll shows that if we keep fighting, we may actually have a chance to do both."

Despite his day-long detour to the Vatican last Friday, Sanders maintained that his campaign was focused on winning New York but also laid out several preemptive explanations for why it might not. Among them: the fact that independent voters cannot participate in Tuesday's closed Democratic primary.

"Now you're on to a big issue. Nothing much I can do. It's bad New York state election law," Sanders said during a discussion on "CBS This Morning" on Monday. "What it says to the many hundreds of thousands or more independents who would like to vote tomorrow for me or for anybody, they can't participate, I think that that's wrong, and that does hurt us. 'Cause we win independent voters by 2 to 1."


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-new-york-222077
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Bernie sez "so what if I lose New York?" (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
He's looking for a soft place to fall. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
Pennsylvania won't be terribly soft for him either nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #2
The obvious solution to Independents not being able to vote stopbush Apr 2016 #3
each state sets their own rules, I really have no pity for people who register as Independent out of geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4
Yes, the states set what kind of primary election will be held, not the party. stopbush Apr 2016 #5
I so agree. SharonClark Apr 2016 #19
Tis but a scratch BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #6
It's the friggin' Democratic Party primary, Bud. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #7
and out of his own mouth DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #8
First they said they were going to crush Hillary in New York William769 Apr 2016 #9
I wouldn't worry about throwing his ass out of the party, he'll "self-deport" himself geek tragedy Apr 2016 #10
He has already signed up to run as an Independent in 2018's Senate race. Walk away Apr 2016 #15
He will not quit creon Apr 2016 #11
Accept that he is a sore loser who doesn't respect the will of the voters, yes I can accept that as geek tragedy Apr 2016 #13
One hopes creon Apr 2016 #18
"It's bad New York state election law" when Sanders is running. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #12
Did anyone remind him LoveMyCali Apr 2016 #14
After he loses this scorched-earth campaign against the Democratic party... Koinos Apr 2016 #16
Losing elections is NEVER his fault Haveadream Apr 2016 #17

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
3. The obvious solution to Independents not being able to vote
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:40 AM
Apr 2016

in closed primaries is to make all primaries closed. That way, there's no confusion. If you're not registered as a D, you don't get to vote in the D primary. Simple.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. each state sets their own rules, I really have no pity for people who register as Independent out of
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

vanity.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
7. It's the friggin' Democratic Party primary, Bud.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

You chose to run as a Democrat for the sole purpose of gaining media attention. But there's a catch. You have to abide by the party's rules.

If the I's love you so much, they should have registered as a Dem.

Stop bashing the party rules, and start your lobbying for a meeting with the Dalai Lama right before the California primary.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
8. and out of his own mouth
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

the INDEPENDENT from VT says exactly WHY our primaries/caucuses need to be closed. Democrats selecting their own nominee.

William769

(55,147 posts)
9. First they said they were going to crush Hillary in New York
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

Then they said they were just going to win New York. With this and other statements made by this Loony tune campaign. One thing for sure you can believe about this Sanders campaign you can't believe anything they say.

In the beginning I had the utmost respect For Sanders, now? I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. All he has done lately is try to tear the Democratic party apart. If I had my way I'd throw his ass out of the party.

I don't know how you feel about what I just said geek tragedy, but I believe I earned the right to say it.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. I wouldn't worry about throwing his ass out of the party, he'll "self-deport" himself
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

within a year.

Glad to have him leave New York tomorrow, we certainly managed pretty well after he left 48 years ago.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
15. He has already signed up to run as an Independent in 2018's Senate race.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe in 2020 he can run as a Republican!

creon

(1,183 posts)
11. He will not quit
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

I think that Sanders is in the contest up to the Convention.
He sees no reason to give it up.
I think that people should accept that.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. Accept that he is a sore loser who doesn't respect the will of the voters, yes I can accept that as
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

true.

Not as a rational or responsible behavior, but certainly as one that describes BS.

creon

(1,183 posts)
18. One hopes
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

that Sanders shows good sportsmanship
Then, campaigns for her.

Sore loser is, definitely, bad form.

LiberalFighter

(50,947 posts)
12. "It's bad New York state election law" when Sanders is running.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

But it was fine for every candidate running for President in the past.

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
14. Did anyone remind him
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

that he could have run as an Independent instead of as a Democrat? Just wondering why all of the sudden this is a bad election law.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
16. After he loses this scorched-earth campaign against the Democratic party...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

Will anyone other than Rand Paul or James Inhofe join him for lunch in the Senate cafeteria?

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
17. Losing elections is NEVER his fault
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

Everything is always "rigged", or it doesn't count, or the people aren't smart, or the rules aren't fair, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Why can't he just tell the truth for once? Dems just don't like him or the "plans" he rode in on.

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