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Related: About this forumSouthern Fried Sanctimony
So in last Thursday's debate in Brooklyn, Bernie Sanders dismissed Hillary Clinton's lead in both votes and delegates by saying, "Secretary Clinton cleaned our clock in the Deep South, no question about it. We got murdered there. That is the most conservative part of this great country. That's the fact. But you know what, we're out of the Deep South now. And we're moving up."
Sanders has previously waved off the region by saying the Southern primaries "distort reality" and claimed he didn't try compete there when he actually did.
Memo to the Bernie Sanders campaign: You know who actually achieved a revolution in this country? Black Southerners. You know, the people voting for Hillary by 6 to 1 margins in the southern primaries. As the political handicapper Nate Silver put it last week at FiveThirtyEight, Clinton is winning the states that most look like the Democratic Party. "In fact, these states are among the most demographically representative of the diverse Obama coalition that Clinton or Sanders will have to rely on in November," Silver wrote.
Sanders has previously waved off the region by saying the Southern primaries "distort reality" and claimed he didn't try compete there when he actually did.
Memo to the Bernie Sanders campaign: You know who actually achieved a revolution in this country? Black Southerners. You know, the people voting for Hillary by 6 to 1 margins in the southern primaries. As the political handicapper Nate Silver put it last week at FiveThirtyEight, Clinton is winning the states that most look like the Democratic Party. "In fact, these states are among the most demographically representative of the diverse Obama coalition that Clinton or Sanders will have to rely on in November," Silver wrote.
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http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/articles/2016-04-18/why-hillary-clinton-trumps-bernie-sanders-in-the-south-and-everywhere?google_editors_picks=true
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Southern Fried Sanctimony (Original Post)
radical noodle
Apr 2016
OP
Bernie Sanders' dismissal of the South shows why Hillary Clinton's a better candidate.
Her Sister
Apr 2016
#4
Yet Sanders wants independents, Republicans and other non-Democrats to vote in Democratic primaries
LiberalFighter
Apr 2016
#6
These same states was Democratic for many years, hopefully we will return to blue, we just
Thinkingabout
Apr 2016
#7
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)1. Thanks for sharing this excellent article
the author says Hillary is the better candidate. But we knew that!
lucca18
(1,242 posts)2. Good article!
I did not like the way Bernie Sanders dismissed the South. His rationalization leaves a lot to be desired.
What a great disappointment Sanders turned out to be.
I have lost all respect for him!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)3. Thank you.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)4. Bernie Sanders' dismissal of the South shows why Hillary Clinton's a better candidate.
Bernie Sanders' dismissal of the South shows why Hillary Clinton's a better candidate.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/articles/2016-04-18/why-hillary-clinton-trumps-bernie-sanders-in-the-south-and-everywhere?google_editors_picks=true
Speaking as a born and raised Southerner (Texas and Tennessee) I can testify that there is a history in the region of counting some votes more than others. And it's no more appropriate, or less offensive, now than then. And the idea of doing so is also a godawful message to send to all the Democrats in the South, black and white that they're not worth bothering with and should be written off. There are a lot of Democrats in Southern states that are working their hearts out against tough odds and, in some cases, succeeding.
Deep South Democrats just elected a governor in Louisiana, John bel Edwards. He has already announced he will expand Medicaid to help that state's poorest citizens and he's overturning the anti-LGBT executive orders of his predecessor, Bobby Jindal. This is why electing imperfect, even conservative, Democrats in the South matters
Powerful! This should be a teachable moment!
Wow! Thanks for sharing this!
brer cat
(24,575 posts)5. Propane Jane is a jewel!
Propane Jane @docrocktex26
We don't have time for your purity bullshit down here, we need Democratic Party funding to beat back Jim Crow and wire hanger abortions.
2:36 PM - 17 Apr 2016
We don't have time for your purity bullshit down here, we need Democratic Party funding to beat back Jim Crow and wire hanger abortions.
2:36 PM - 17 Apr 2016
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)9. That was one of my favorite parts of the article
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,023 posts)13. #FeelTheBurnSanders
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)6. Yet Sanders wants independents, Republicans and other non-Democrats to vote in Democratic primaries
At least the Democrats in the southern states were Democrats.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)7. These same states was Democratic for many years, hopefully we will return to blue, we just
have to overlook a bad analogy by Sanders, another bad decision.
mcar
(42,334 posts)8. K&R
Cha
(297,285 posts)10. "But the Sanders' dismissal also reveals the most irritating aspect of his entire campaign and
indeed his entire career. It's not the issues, it's the sanctimony."
This Week
✔ @ThisWeekABC
@HillaryClinton responds to Sanders' claim that her wins have been mostly in the "deep South." #ThisWeek
4:32 AM - 17 Apr 2016
346 346 Retweets 544 544 likes
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/articles/2016-04-18/why-hillary-clinton-trumps-bernie-sanders-in-the-south-and-everywhere?google_editors_picks=true
Brilliant, radical noodle! Thank you! I've loved Propane Jane's Tweets from the Obama Diary.. didn't know she was in Texas.
This Week
✔ @ThisWeekABC
@HillaryClinton responds to Sanders' claim that her wins have been mostly in the "deep South." #ThisWeek
4:32 AM - 17 Apr 2016
346 346 Retweets 544 544 likes
Bernie Sanders, while falling to the left of the dial, is as flawed and at times politically compromised as any other candidate. His unwillingness to apologize to the Sandy Hook families after voting to give gun manufacturers a liability exemption is particularly unpleasant. He's also voted to support a trillion-dollar Pentagon boondoggle, the F-35 stealth fighter plane being built in Vermont by Lockheed Martin, making his railing against Hillary's Iraq votes (for which she has apologized) somewhat lacking in sincerity.
Hillary's not perfect. But unlike Sanders, she doesn't pretend to be. And that's what it takes to elect Democrats in the South, to the White House and elsewhere not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Hillary's not perfect. But unlike Sanders, she doesn't pretend to be. And that's what it takes to elect Democrats in the South, to the White House and elsewhere not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/articles/2016-04-18/why-hillary-clinton-trumps-bernie-sanders-in-the-south-and-everywhere?google_editors_picks=true
Brilliant, radical noodle! Thank you! I've loved Propane Jane's Tweets from the Obama Diary.. didn't know she was in Texas.
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)11. You're welcome!
Cha
(297,285 posts)12. So much great information!
Kind I like!