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So, did the excursion to the Vatican help or hurt or neither? (Original Post) spooky3 Apr 2016 OP
I think a lot of Catholics saw it as a stunt book_worm Apr 2016 #1
What's not to love about using campaign cash for a Roman holiday? SunSeeker Apr 2016 #2
Seriously, I would want to stay more than a day or two spooky3 Apr 2016 #3
Well he did spend about two days and one night. nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #8
No kidding! I can't think of a more frivolous thing to do! Holy smokes. No pun intended. EOM fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #9
Hope it did not hurt, it would have really been bad if it hurt. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #4
THIS Catholic,... MarianJack Apr 2016 #5
Even if the intentions were honest ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #6
I think it hurt. I expressed a few times how I, as a Catholic, LisaM Apr 2016 #7
God only knows... stopbush Apr 2016 #10
:-) spooky3 Apr 2016 #11
I think it hurt DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #12
Not the visit Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #13
By rights the way they finagled it.. it should have hurt him big time. Cha Apr 2016 #14
Easy to tell jmowreader Apr 2016 #15

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
3. Seriously, I would want to stay more than a day or two
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

If I were going to make such a long trip, especially at a critical "work" time.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
5. THIS Catholic,...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

...albeit a non practicing Catholic, has lost so much respect for Sanders recently that I couldn't care less about ANYTHING he said or did.

In the HIGHLY unlikely event of his nomination, I WOULD vote for him. I would also sit through another election night like 1972 & 1984...Yuck!

PEACE!

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
7. I think it hurt. I expressed a few times how I, as a Catholic,
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:13 PM
Apr 2016

felt about this and for one of the few times in the past few months, it seemed that I was actually getting through.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
12. I think it hurt
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

I also think it's going to CONTINUE to hurt. I'm also non practicing these days, but still, I AM a Catholic. That he would grandstand the Pope the way he did, STILL makes my blood boil.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
13. Not the visit
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:57 PM
Apr 2016

But the rediculous fairytale he concocted before and after the fact combined by the Pope's denial really made him look like a desperate fanboy. Not a good look.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
15. Easy to tell
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:28 AM
Apr 2016

I thought Bernie was just going to tear Jefferson County - where Fort Drum is - the fuck up. He does very well in Republican-heavy areas, and Jefferson County is so Republican you pretty much can't get a job in Jefferson County unless you're a party member. It's also very Catholic up there...LOTS of Italians in the area, and Italians are pretty much Catholic by default. If Jane and Bernie's Excellent Adventure was going to help him anywhere, it'd be here.

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