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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:49 PM Apr 2016

The Sanders camp is always bringing up the "Clinton Machine" as an excuse for Sander's lack

of support from his peers.

How come those same people were not afraid to switch heir support to Obama eight years ago? How many careers were destroyed then by "The Clinton Machine? What was the terrible revenge that "The Clinton Machine" unleashed on them?

Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar". Yes sometimes (or usually) the simplest explanation is the truth. The reason they didn't flock to him is simply that they don't like and/or trust him. That's it

Simple, isn't it



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The Sanders camp is always bringing up the "Clinton Machine" as an excuse for Sander's lack (Original Post) lunamagica Apr 2016 OP
If you're making excuses, you're not winning. stopbush Apr 2016 #1
Bingo! savalez Apr 2016 #2
They don't even know what machine politics are bluestateguy Apr 2016 #3
Most are first time voters tonyt53 Apr 2016 #4
Welcome to DU DoBotherMe Apr 2016 #11
He has no peer support DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #5
That's what I hear, too SharonClark Apr 2016 #10
If it had not been for those three million Democratic voters inside the machine... Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #6
Yes, Hillary's campaign is far better organized than Sander's. okasha Apr 2016 #7
It was not the Clinton machine which I support, it is a very qualified Hillary Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #8
Excuse-making. Demonization. Imaginary boogeyman. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #9
Desperate BS thought his rw buzz words were going to win this primary for him. LOL Cha Apr 2016 #12

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. They don't even know what machine politics are
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:05 PM
Apr 2016

Civil service reform laws killed off the political machines, first at a national level and then in the states and cities.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
4. Most are first time voters
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

Most have never registered to vote, much less vote. most are bandwagon jumpers - they jumped on Bernie's bandwagon over two lines - free college tuition and free healthcare. I'm a lifelong Democrat and have never missed a general election and have never voted for a Republican. i also believe in working to earn things in life. Bernie-ites will be gone as soon as colleges have all let out for the summer because that is where is holds most of his rallies.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
6. If it had not been for those three million Democratic voters inside the machine...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

He would have gotten away with it.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
7. Yes, Hillary's campaign is far better organized than Sander's.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

That's because she is massively competent herself and hired really first-rate staff.

If Bernie wonders why he's losing, he need look no further than Devine, Weaver and the apparently scatterbrained Jane, who can't make an accurate budget or find tax returns.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. It was not the Clinton machine which I support, it is a very qualified Hillary
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

Who is running for president. She is well versed on many issues, knows what she is talking, has the facts and when given opportunities to answer questions she did not dance off to talk about Wall Street, breaking up the banks and Hillary's speeches. I do not support Sanders because he has not been able to answer how he will break up the banks, one of his core issues, I am on Medicare and I know of the problems and I know it isn't free.

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