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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:36 PM May 2016

Great Kos Post: No Bernie Super's won't bail you out because you didn't get more votes

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/2/1522281/-No-Bernie-the-superdelegates-won-t-bail-you-out-because-you-didn-t-get-more-votes

After getting his ass whooped last Tuesday (losing the popular vote by ~764,000 on the day), Bernie Sanders issued a statement saying he was continuing in the race to amass delegates to impact policy at the convention: “This campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform.” That was fine. If his supporters wanted to fund that effort, there was no reason for him not to continue fighting for greater influence at the convention. But to win? It seemed as if his campaign’s delusion was over. But alas, that wasn’t the case.

5) The overall scorecard shows no real Sanders advantage:


Winning low-performance caucuses doesn’t give Sanders any particular moral high ground. We all know caucuses reward the candidate with the most passionate supporters, and no one doubts those belong to Sanders. Barack Obama won the nomination in 2008 largely on the strength of performance in those undemocratic caucuses. So there’s nothing wrong with working the system to your advantage. But when caucuses are essentially the only game you’ve got, that’s a problem.
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Great Kos Post: No Bernie Super's won't bail you out because you didn't get more votes (Original Post) book_worm May 2016 OP
duh!! Her Sister May 2016 #1
"Oh, we love caucuses. If anything, they count double." IamMab May 2016 #2
OMG... radical noodle May 2016 #7
Screw GDP. This one was for us. nt IamMab May 2016 #8
#FeelTheReality Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #3
"After getting his ass whooped " .. ROFL misterhighwasted May 2016 #4
Obama needed the supers to get him a majority, too, and no one called it a “contested convention” Her Sister May 2016 #5
It's fair to contest it if it's a girl trying to win. displacedtexan May 2016 #9
Yep--"...that's a problem!" pandr32 May 2016 #6
thank you, book! Cha May 2016 #10
The arrogance and self-righteous of Sanders and his supporters is off the charts SharonClark May 2016 #11
Remind you of a certain Tea Party? justiceischeap May 2016 #12
 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
2. "Oh, we love caucuses. If anything, they count double."
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

Never forget where you were when you first watched this. LOL

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
4. "After getting his ass whooped " .. ROFL
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

"After getting his ass whooped last Tuesday (losing the popular vote by ~764,000 on the day), Bernie Sanders issued a statement saying he was continuing in the race "


#BernieWon'tQuitCuzHeWantsMoreMoney

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. Obama needed the supers to get him a majority, too, and no one called it a “contested convention”
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

Obama needed the supers to get him a majority, too, and no one called it a “contested convention” because that would’ve been stupid and asinine.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/2/1522281/-No-Bernie-the-superdelegates-won-t-bail-you-out-because-you-didn-t-get-more-votes

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
11. The arrogance and self-righteous of Sanders and his supporters is off the charts
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

Sanders 'joined' a year ago to dictate to the Democratic Party and its members 1) what the platform should be, 2) how to run the Democratic Presidential Nominating convention, and 3) how to run the primaries and caucuses. I am sick of Sanders' arrogance and I'm sick of his supporters' arrogance.

I had no problem with Sanders running as a Dem until he started attacking the party and Hillary. Any good that he may have done at the beginning has been outweighed by the damage he is doing now. His constant and petulant accusations that if he doesn't win a primary then it is the fault of the establishment, corruption, or the elite is tiring and wrong. He has screwed the party with his negativity and has convinced his acolytes that everyone is out to get them, that everyone who has a different opinion is evil, and that they are smarter than the 'low information' people who vote for other candidates.

I know most Sanders supporters are just like Hillary supporters and they keep the best interests of their families, the country and world in mind. But those are not the ones getting media time.

As a Democrat, I feel insulted every time Sanders opens his mouth and rags on the party. He should just STOP IT now.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. Remind you of a certain Tea Party?
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

That's why I decided against supporting Sanders. Because an all too vocal minority of his supporters sounded too much like the Tea Party for me. I'm a big believer that a politician, including our President, should represent ALL voters, whether I like it or not. It's their job. So, IMO, they have to appeal to a wide-range of voters who will actually show up and vote--I think Hillary can handle that.

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