'I've been silent': Harvard's Clinton backers face life on a pro-Bernie campus (HRC GP)

[Her Sister]

As students across the country voice support for Sanders, Hillary Clinton backers say they contend with anger and accusations: ‘You’re evil’

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/08/harvard-students-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-2016-election?CMP=share_btn_tw

Walk around any college campus and Bernie Sanders’ popularity is immediately apparent. Depending on the climate, you’re likely to see Bernie T-shirts or Bernie sweaters or Bernie hats or Bernie scarves.

You’re less likely to encounter Hillary Clinton memorabilia. In a setting where students are meant to be rebelling against the status quo, to be wearing berets and hanging Che Guevara posters on their walls, supporting Clinton just isn’t cool.


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It turns out this is even true at Harvard University – hardly known for revolutionary politics.

In April, Sam Koppelman, a 20-year-old government student at Harvard, wrote a letter to the New York Times lamenting that his support for Clinton meant that on campus he “might as well be Pat Buchanan”.

“At Harvard, admitting that #ImWithHer is nearly tantamount to boasting ‘Make America Great Again’,” Koppelman wrote.

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[SharonClark]

1. It's sad how sheep-like some young people can be in order to be 'cool'

Thankfully, for some, that will wear off as they mature. Those who have lived through it know it.

[Her Sister]

2. I think also a lot of their professors have a lot to do with it!

Not all but many!

[realmirage]

3. That's why politicians don't care about the youth vote

lots of uninformed noise, no results

[Blue Idaho]

12. No...

Politicians don't care about the 18- 25 year olds because they don't vote. They are always the least reliable age block when it comes to voting in November. It's has been one of the big miscalculations of the Sanders campaign. For all of his giant rallies, mostly on college campuses, he is still losing both the popular vote and delegates.

Some day soon, we will hear about the pitiful return on investment of the Sanders campaign. While Bernie has outspent Sec. Clinton 2:1 and even 3:1 he has nothing much to show for it.

[realmirage]

20. that's what i meant by no results

lots of vocal, out of control juvenile behavior, then on voting day... crickets

[Blue Idaho]

27. Sorry - Yes!

I should have read more carefully.

My bad - have a good day.

[Cha]

4. they're sick.. who knew they could be so easily brainwashed?

[yallerdawg]

5. This in a nutshell!

“Around the country, low income people, low income minorities are voting for Hillary in vast majorities,” Koppelman said.

“And this attitude on college campuses that ‘if you’re an advocate for social justice issues, you need to be a Bernie supporter’ is really dismissive of those people across the country who are voting for Hillary.

“It’s a ‘we know better attitude’ that is so emblematic of the very things Bernie Sanders is campaigning against.”

[Henhouse]

7. K&R

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

11. White priveledge I guess

They won't be hurt if Trump gets in.

[rock]

6. Some people think that because they are educated

They are no longer ignorant.

[IamMab]

23. I think you might mean "partially educated" also.

After all, they're not students because the world agrees that they already know everything.

[rock]

24. Easily agreed

Thanks.

[nini]

8. Sanders supporters need to accept that supporting Hllary does not mean we don't agree on issues

For me it's more that I don't agree with the method on getting things done. I believe Hillary will get more done in today's political climate with Congress. I believe she is more realistic with foreign policy which is extremely complicated. Whether we like it or not the republicans have pulled the country so far to the right it's not going to go far left in one election cycle - especially if the real work isn't being done at the local level.

Anyone who understands how government works will know the next president isn't going to wave a magic wand and get what they want. We won't get things fixed for a couple decades - it sucks but it's reality.

These Bernie kids who think bullying gets things done have so much to learn. I hope they stay engaged and work on local issues but I doubt it since there's little attention with that hard work.

[otohara]

9. By The Time They Return in The Fall

those Sanders shirts will be worthless.

[Her Sister]

13. Wow! Right you are! LOL!

[Stuckinthebush]

10. As an academician

I can tell you that most professors support Clinton over Sanders. The young students are, of course, more extreme in their views. The seasoned, pragmatists support the best candidate for the country and world. That candidate is Hillary.

Adults get it

[FrenchieCat]

14. Hillary won Cambridge during the MA primaries...

53.3% to 46.3% https://apps.bostonglobe.com/election-results/2016/primary/democratic/massachusetts/

[GvilleDem]

15. Not on my campus

Maybe UF is just different, but I doubt it. I wore Hillary gear, no heckles. I spoke with Bernie supporters on campus, we had intelligent, civil conversations about the future of the country. I met many young Hillary supporters, and in immigration class we objectively broke down policy proposals by both Bernie and Hillary without any protest or discourse. The professor asked "What do you notice about Bernies proposals?" And one young student blurted out "They aren't realistic." It wasn't the answer she was looking for. Its just a young Hillary supporter being vocal in class. Some Bernie fans did similiar when talking about her plans, but it was far from fanatical or violent.

You know who the Bernie fanatics I know of are?
Older Bernie fans who lost faith in the democratic party. Mostly my dads friends he met at yoga and such. They are extreme, fanatical, rude, and ridiculously misinformed. I had to block 4 of my fathers friends because they were heckling me for supporting Hillary and it threatened our friendship.

I'm 30 now, so I'm a little above the demographic being spoken of, but I am a late college applicant finishing my bachelors in economics, so most my friends are under 24. They are not fitting of this stereotype. Its incorrect and a little offensive. Come fall, college students will be with her. Anything contrary is a media lie.

[Her Sister]

16. Maybe every campus is different!

Sounds like Harvard campus is having a different situation from your campus!

[FrenchieCat]

18. Cambridge is Harvard, and she won there...

By a decent amount!

Might be, as elsewhere, Sanders supporters are just louder?

[Her Sister]

19. "exit polls show Sanders won 71% of the vote among 18 to 24-year-olds."

In March, Clinton won the Massachusetts primary with 50.1% to Sanders’ 48.7%, although exit polls show Sanders won 71% of the vote among 18 to 24-year-olds. Sanders’ support among young, passionate voters has seen reporting on the “Bernie Bros” phenomenon – the notion that some Sanders supporters use social media to attack Clinton and her supporters.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/08/harvard-students-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-2016-election?CMP=share_btn_tw

Cambridge HRC 53% BS 46%
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/massachusetts

[skylucy]

22. Thank you for this posting. You have given me hope.

[shadowandblossom]

28. I've read several accounts from college millennials, (I'm one too on the far end at around 30 btw),

where people are in the closet with their Clinton support, sometimes to the point of actively pretending to support Sanders, or at the very least are feeling a lot of pressure. I'm thinking that it's just more of a general trend than a universal, I bet your college is sort of an exception to norm.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Hillary also won Boston by 57.5 to Sanders' 41.5

So it would seem that wearing a Hillary sweatshirt in the general college areas there wouldn't hurt?

[Her Sister]

21. Cambridge HRC 53% BS 46%

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/massachusetts

[workinclasszero]

25. The oppression of the minority plays out on college campuses

and right here on DU, or should I say the Bernie Underground?

[Her Sister]

26. Interesting Al Giordano thread:

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‏@AlGiordano AlGiordano Retweeted Sophie Sensation
I can imagine that a real Sanders supporter would dislike them most because they've harmed the campaign so much.AlGiordano added,
Sophie Sensation @sophienotemily
@AlGiordano I'm one of those. I'm a Bernie supporter fully prepared to vote for HRC, and I hate the BernieBros with a passion.
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JschooverK ‏@JschooverK 1h1 hour ago
@AlGiordano They've significantly hurt his campaign. Know plenty of people who liked Bernie early who were totally turned off by them.
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JschooverK ‏@JschooverK 1h1 hour ago
@AlGiordano Should say open not liked. Willing to give him a listen but his more fevered supporters turned them off.
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Dawn Diez Willis ‏@DawnDiezWillis 33s33 seconds ago
@AlGiordano And assisted in harming his legacy.

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/729352536252014592

[Jitter65]

29. No matter...just vote and don't give up.

I don't know why Bernie supporters have to be so uncivil. Spread as much truth as you can but don't engage. They can be vicious.

[postatomic]

30. I'll never understand the "unhappy with the Obama economy" thing

When he first took office he had to jump on a runaway train that had no brakes and was heading toward 'Dead Man's Corner'. Obama was able to stop the train and even back it up a bit.

I get the sense that some of these Sandman supporters are more concerned with their financial future and don't really give a fuck about the poor and homeless in this country.

[sarae]

31. +1