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I imagine more of these stories will drip out. This man--Ethan wants his privacy but had no morals when he left a threatening message. His story is unbelievable. I just shake my head!!
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We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves
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Anna Merlan
Today 11:15amFiled to: nevada
Thanks to some extremely zealous Bernie Sanders supporters, the Nevada State Democratic Convention this past weekend was a particularly epic disaster, devolving into yelling, graffiti, chair-throwing and many, many threats and insults phoned in to Democratic State Party Chairwoman Roberta Lange. Yesterday, we called some of the threat-makers back, to get some insight into why they thought that was a good plan.
.............We know where you live, where you work, where you eat, another text to Lange read. Where your kids go to school/grandkids. We have everything on you. We are your neighbors, friends, family, etc.
The person who sent that one is a 26-year-old named Ethan with a Wisconsin area code, although he assured me the number was fake (and, I assume, the name was as well).
Do you know what the concept of Anonymous is? he asked me, immediately.
I said that I did. Ethan explained hed been undertaking an Anonymous-esque action, but also, that he was trying to play a threatening character deliberately, to send a message.
She is very much a top person, Ethan said, referring to Lange. The establishment and people like her have been on the internet themselves writing posts that try to incite hate. Try to incite frustration. They pay off trolls to start problems and stuff like that. (For example, a pro-Hillary PAC spent $1 million to hire people to correct Facebook and Reddit commenters.)
Ethans purpose was to represent angry people, he told me, not to express his own views.
I created a character, a scarykind of a Jason kind of character, he explained. Looking at what the establishment is afraid of, a scary Joker-like character whos like the boogeyman under their bed.
I told him I thought anyone would probably be alarmed by those texts; that I, as someone who voted Sanders, found them alarming and wrong-headed and a generally bad response to a convention that didnt break Sanders way.
I understand where youre coming from, he replied. But people are getting frustrated and I only have $300 to my name. I have no ability to get anymore help than I can. Ive been working and breaking my back over this, he said, meaning supporting Sanders.
Ethan has bad disabilities, he explained, one of which makes it impossible for him to work. I heard people tell me Im lazy, Im useless. I cant even go to college.
In the midst of all that, he said, my intent was to give her back what she and the establishment have been doing for the last few days.
I told Ethan that to me he sounded frustrated and disaffected and a little lonely. I asked if maybe Lange had come to stand in for a whole bunch of things that werent working well, personally and politically.
Its not that, he said. It doesnt matter if youre in Nevada or in Washington. If youre working for the government, you need to understand that people are frustrated. The threats, he said, were a warning.
If you dont listen to the people, this is going to happen, he said. People get so frustrated. Theyll find out where some of these people live and itll be a huge bloody revolt. You need to listen before it turns into that.
Who are you talking to? and older womans voice shouted worriedly from the background.
Please dont tell anyone my name, Ethan said, as we hung up. I like my privacy..........
Actor
(626 posts)The GOP is the problem, in the larger sense anyway.
Sure, both parties are too far right, but why are you going after the one that still fights for you at least to some degree?
Crazy.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)He likes HIS privacy, but he has no problem violating the privacy of others.
TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)If anyone doesn't believe that some on the left can be just as easily influenced and malleable as the right, here's exhibit A.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)I'd like to hear more from the rest of the, I want to say terrorists?
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=def%20of%20terrorist
TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)so I think maybe they're more delusional morons than terrorists. Not that they couldn't be both, of course.
To be clear, I think that the threats should be taken seriously and dealt with appropriately by whatever law enforcement agencies have jurisdiction. A little visit from the Secret Service might also provide a little perspective. Your tax dollars at work.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Also helpful for refuting the boatload of Bernie supporters going around saying the threatening callers were Hillary supporters or GOP plants. Could never be Bernie supporters, of course not!
SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)What he did was a crime.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Maybe those poor kids he scared to death would sleep better at night.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I wonder when he last got laid.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)He sounds very sad - and very frustrated with his life circumstances.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and a bit disturbing.
mcar
(42,376 posts)Tough guys but don't tell my mom!
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)I can't even fathom how someone could think that was a good idea. Unbelievable.
TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)But, we're supposed to believe that Bernie Bros don't exist. This guy could model for the poster.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)They seem to fit the profile.
What they have done is, apparently, a federal crime so....meet the FBI Bernie Bros!
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)That way his cinematic role-playing fantasy can have a big dose of reality. He has broken laws and needs to be held accountable. His "poor me/disabilities/I'm not lazy" defenses sound like garden variety sociopathic excuses for criminal behavior.
nini
(16,672 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)He thinks Lange works for the government.
He clearly has mental health issues. I just hope he doesn't have a gun or a car.
mercuryblues
(14,543 posts)like someone who voted for walker and blaming Dems for his problems.
wysi
(1,512 posts)Further evidence that the Bros are a bunch of young loser white guys with mommy issues.
LisaM
(27,839 posts)He actually makes the assertion that this is all like a third-world country, then excuses himself to go plan a honeymoon! How third-world! Maybe he's going to Maui! (and maybe he's one of those people who's taken to registering for their honeymoon so that their parents' friends can foot the bill for things like two nights at the hotel, etc....)
TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)he has a wife, three kids, works for a bank, owns rental property, and drives an SUV.
LisaM
(27,839 posts)shops at Amazon, and stays at AirBnB when on vacation....
TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)That's pretty much right on.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)hm
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)What a bunch of slime
riversedge
(70,310 posts)There are some similarities.