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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:58 AM May 2016

"Bernie Loses His Halo. Even progressives are criticizing him now after he’s shown a harder edge."

...If Bernie wants to own the moral high ground at the convention, he’ll need to return the focus of his campaign to the issues in its final days.

...

Actually, Sanders hasn’t lost much support among his most avid supporters—who do not include Moulitsas, a sometime critic. What we are seeing, however, is that it’s no longer taboo in liberal circles to attack Sanders as he drags out the nomination process at a time when many are itching to turn their fire on Donald Trump. And if his reputation in the party is being damaged outside his base, that will make it harder for him to extract concessions from Clinton regarding the platform and party nomination rules at the convention.

Through much of the campaign, Sanders wore a progressive halo, making it tricky for Clinton to play classic hardball politics (not that she didn’t try). Even if Democratic voters didn’t believe he was the practical choice, his platform still spoke to the ideological aspirations of many in the party. His supporters heard, “I like Bernie, but…” so much that they turned it into a website providing information designed to assuage unsure voters.

Much of the warm, fuzzy sentiment was based on a perception of Sanders as a non-politician, a man so wedded to his ideals that he would not besmirch them by engaging in petty politics. Democrats of all stripes lauded Sanders in October when he went out of his way to keep the debate focus on policy and take an enticing line of attack off the table, thundering, “The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails.”

But in the months that followed, the Sanders campaign adopted an increasingly harder edge, gradually depriving him of angelic protections. Now, with only six states remaining on the primary calendar, the delegate math harder and harder to ignore, and the Clinton’s lead over Donald Trump short of insurmountable, partisan impulses on the left are kicking in, and patience for squabbles is wearing thin.
...

Right now, the media is getting a lot of the sport it likes, and Sanders is getting a lot less of what he likes. He might consider delivering a speech on how giving reporters fodder for stories about discord only serves to take the spotlight away from income inequality and corporate influence over democracy – which would be a way to urge better behavior from his supporters without sounding like he’s scolding them.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-loses-his-halo-213911
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Good analysis and valid advice for the Bern.
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"Bernie Loses His Halo. Even progressives are criticizing him now after he’s shown a harder edge." (Original Post) Surya Gayatri May 2016 OP
He was going to run a positive campaign and he has done everything but that liberal N proud May 2016 #1
Quintessential "angry old man". Literally shaking his finger and Surya Gayatri May 2016 #2
gross. Cha May 2016 #6
One can virtually see the spittle fly and smell the coffee breath, no? Maru Kitteh May 2016 #21
The positive campaign promise did not last long Gothmog May 2016 #24
Oh Thanks! Bookmarking! Gonna read with my morning coffee! Her Sister May 2016 #3
Really good, brass tacks analysis. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #4
burnie has lost his fake halo. Cha May 2016 #5
We'll see. He certainly has no historical loyalty to the party. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #7
2 years left on his current Senate term, and he's never had a job that wasn't taxpayer-funded. BobbyDrake May 2016 #10
Boy, will he be chafing under that disciplinary yoke! LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #11
Do you really believe that last paragraph? jmowreader May 2016 #22
He's backed himself into a corner. TwilightZone May 2016 #19
Oh, I forgot about the lying "money laundering" accusations. Thank you for the reminder. Cha May 2016 #20
"I call BullShit on this.. " NastyRiffraff May 2016 #23
BS wants to take our Dem Party down with hm.. poor thing... ain't gonna happen. Cha May 2016 #27
Sanders has little control over his supporters Gman May 2016 #8
Funny you should mention the slogan "DESTROY". So many of Sanders' rabid young Surya Gayatri May 2016 #9
In my opinion BS never had a "halo" to begin with Iliyah May 2016 #12
I certainly never saw him with one. But, too many of his Surya Gayatri May 2016 #13
HA Goodman is the leader of the "Bernie is a savior" pack. TwilightZone May 2016 #15
Well, they sure freaked out about this one. Multiple posts and a lot of whining. TwilightZone May 2016 #14
That salient fact does seem to have escaped their notice. LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #17
On some issues like SS he has moved to Hillary's position, Hillary has been for universal health Thinkingabout May 2016 #16
^^^WORD!^^^ Surya Gayatri May 2016 #18
I have never felt the bern but I used to like Sanders Gothmog May 2016 #25
Harder edge? Let's face it, he's being an childish a*&. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #26
He's "gone negative" throughout the entire campaign. tarheelsunc May 2016 #28
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
2. Quintessential "angry old man". Literally shaking his finger and
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:16 AM
May 2016

waving his arms at the whole world, and blaming everybody but himself for his present predicament.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
5. burnie has lost his fake halo.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:03 AM
May 2016
Despite the charges that the toxicity comes “from the top” of the Sanders campaign, Bloomberg News reports that Sanders has personally reached out to fellow senators and given “behind-the-scenes assurances” that he “understands the need for party unity.”

I call BullShit on this.. we know the toxicity comes from the top and I don't believe for a second that sanders "understands" a damn thing about party unity.

Thank you for this, Surya~

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. We'll see. He certainly has no historical loyalty to the party.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:06 AM
May 2016

Is he serious about doing everything in his power to keep Drumpf out of the White House?

The moment is coming to either "shit or get off the pot", as my late RW-nut father used to say.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
10. 2 years left on his current Senate term, and he's never had a job that wasn't taxpayer-funded.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

I don't see him being all that eager to abandon his gravy train by retiring early. This means he'll have to play by Democratic Party rules in the Senate, whether they're in the majority or minority. Otherwise, he undoes everything he's said about being a Democrat this primary cycle, and further tarnishes his brand by making more and more openly opportunistic decisions that go against his supposed principles.

Although won't it be ironic when he retires and starts making money off of the lecture circuit? You'll see a completely different perspective on private speaking fees once Bernie is earning some, just wait and see...

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. Boy, will he be chafing under that disciplinary yoke! LOL!
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016
This means he'll have to play by Democratic Party rules in the Senate, whether they're in the majority or minority.


And, yes, the irony will be delicious "when he retires and starts making money off of the lecture circuit..."

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
22. Do you really believe that last paragraph?
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

I don't think anyone would pay to hear him speak. Corporations don't want him, universities can just throw in a tape of one of his stump speeches...

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
19. He's backed himself into a corner.
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

If he doesn't endorse Hillary as he said he would, he looks like a hypocrite.

If he does endorse Hillary, he looks like a hypocrite.

If he negotiates with the DNC to retire his campaign debt after publicly accusing them of money laundering and rigging the election, he looks like a hypocrite.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
20. Oh, I forgot about the lying "money laundering" accusations. Thank you for the reminder.
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

burnie's going to be a lying hypocrite if he backs Hillary and a liar if he doesn't.

You're exactly right.. BS has backed himself into a desperate corner, that's been a long time in the making .. and this is where he ends up. Hoisted on his own well deserved petard.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
23. "I call BullShit on this.. "
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 07:19 PM - Edit history (1)

So do I, Cha. Bernie has been slamming the Democratic party for years, and has only stepped up his attacks on it since beginning his campaign. Bernie himself, not his campaign. He makes a point of it. Legitimate criticism is one thing, but he goes far beyond that; he never misses an opportunity to try to de-legitimatize the Democratic party.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
8. Sanders has little control over his supporters
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

They will continue to behave badly even after the convention. They simply want to destroy. No reason, no plan, no goal. Just destroy.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Funny you should mention the slogan "DESTROY". So many of Sanders' rabid young
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

minions remind me of the Neo-Anarchist movement here in France. Guess what their street-violence war cry is? "DESTROY" (in English, LOL!)

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. I certainly never saw him with one. But, too many of his
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

most rabid supporters saw him that way.

Remember the various "Bernie Worhsip" threads from a couple of months ago? Pure cultish belief and behavior.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511591182

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
15. HA Goodman is the leader of the "Bernie is a savior" pack.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

You know...the one they like to pretend doesn't exist.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
14. Well, they sure freaked out about this one. Multiple posts and a lot of whining.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

They don't seem to realize it's a Politico article and not from the Clinton campaign.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. On some issues like SS he has moved to Hillary's position, Hillary has been for universal health
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:17 AM
May 2016

care for years, he has come to her position on shutting down failing banks but using Dodd Frank, he did not understand how to do this but I don't hear a lot about reinstating Glass Stegall. Hillary wants free community colleges and assistance refinancing student loans and tuition assistance with community service. These are progressive ideas.


Now it seems as he is wanting to destroy and disparage the DNC, I do not like this action. He agreed to follow the rules and now he wants to change the rules to suit him, he wasn't going to run a dirty campaign, that left a long time ago. His supporters are out of hand and he is not making the proper moves to be a leader, no we do not need this as a leader of the US. He is angry, not needed.

Gothmog

(145,325 posts)
25. I have never felt the bern but I used to like Sanders
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

Sanders' antics have lowered my opinion of Sanders greatly

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
28. He's "gone negative" throughout the entire campaign.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

His attacks and smears against Clinton would make even the reddest Republican proud. Unfortunately, his fanboys are way too delusional to recognize it.

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