Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumKos Scorches Bitter Bernie in latest blog entry
11 Reason why Bernie Sanders lost this thing fair and squarehttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square
My Favorite:
7. The system was rigged because of closed primaries!
All primaries should be closed. If you want to choose the Democratic nominee, become a Democrat. If you are too pure and awesome and independent and iconoclastic, thats awesome too! Just dont ask to pick someone elses leaders. I dont waltz in to the local Shriners Club, tell them their little hats are stupid, then demand to pick their leadership. If I cared that much about who led them (and what they wore), Id join the organization.
It costs nothing to be a Democrat. Its free! Just check a box! And then you dont have to worry about primary deadlines or whatnot. And if thats too much of a lift for you, then too badyou shouldnt have a say until the general election rolls around. (And yes, I think parties should take over from the states and handle the nomination stuff themselves.)
That said, there have been 23 open contests, and Clinton has won 13 of them. Thats a majority. So even this stupid talking point is stupid. And you know what makes it even more stupid? Take away caucuses, so that were just talking about open primaries, then Clinton has won open primaries 13-6.
Conclusion:
.....Being a sore loser wont change those facts, that reality, or the fact that we have bigger issues to deal with than Sanders insane temper tantrum.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)msongs
(67,420 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Does that mean that Jane will be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars"????
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Maybe she'll run them in the ground too!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)BootinUp
(47,165 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)spooky3
(34,460 posts)Highlight several arguments others have made, he also introduces several new (at least to me) good ones.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)2. He may want to disenfranchise them, but communities of color voted against Sanders
Take another moment to savor what that would meana party establishment ignoring the choice of the communities of color, who have heavily chosen a woman, to undemocratically hand the nomination to yet another white guy. That, my friends, is the essence of white privilege. Its EXHIBIT A, and in case you are wondering, yes it fucking pisses me off.
I get that its really hard for the old guard to surrender power, but this is a new party, and one that gives voice to more people than ever before. You want someone with Bernies politics to get the nomination, perhaps find someone who isnt from the whitest state in the union, unable or unwilling to deal with the communities that drive our modern party.
Fact is, Clinton won people of color by massive margins. Sanders won white people. Sanders thinks the election results should be tossed aside in his favor. Whose votes would be disenfranchised in that scenario? This is simple extrapolation, and dont think us people of color arent noticing.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square
I love your post.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)lol
Cha
(297,323 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Yep, Sums it up!
Cha
(297,323 posts)It is perfect, though!
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Brain spine and brass balls
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I particularly liked this one:
Democrats all over the country get to choose the nominee, and that includes African Americans in southern states, and Latinos in places like Arizona and Texas. And if you have a problem with that, fuck you. Seriously, I cant believe that in this day and age, people are trying to argue that the votes of these critical communities of color dont matter.
You know what would rig the system? Disenfranchising those voters. Maybe just let the whitest states vote? Would that make Sanders happy? Apparently, since thats exactly what he is arguing.
Cha
(297,323 posts)And, now he's got cornel west on his "committee" for the DNC platform.. that's one reason he lost so many AA votes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=142613
Cha
(297,323 posts)2. He may want to disenfranchise them, but communities of color voted against Sanders
Thank you, Charly!
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)Primaries are party elections, not part of the party? That's your problem.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Gothmog
(145,335 posts)JSup
(740 posts)Democrats all over the country get to choose the nominee, and that includes African Americans in southern states, and Latinos in places like Arizona and Texas. And if you have a problem with that, fuck you. Seriously, I cant believe that in this day and age, people are trying to argue that the votes of these critical communities of color dont matter.
You know what would rig the system? Disenfranchising those voters. Maybe just let the whitest states vote? Would that make Sanders happy? Apparently, since thats exactly what he is arguing.
Says it like I've been wanting to.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)several weeks I have been seeing an uptick in my local (redstatistan) news comment section...Hitler/Nazi Germany was Socialist too.
Yes, I know that is not true in the context they mean it. It is a preview of what would be said about Sanders had he won the primary. For all those who say that he would easily beat Trump, consider this....The republicans haven't even started bashing Bernie on a national level.