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charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:53 PM May 2016

Kos Scorches Bitter Bernie in latest blog entry

11 Reason why Bernie Sanders lost this thing fair and square

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square

My Favorite:

7. The system was rigged because of closed primaries!

All primaries should be closed. If you want to choose the Democratic nominee, become a Democrat. If you are too pure and awesome and independent and iconoclastic, that’s awesome too! Just don’t ask to pick someone else’s leaders. I don’t waltz in to the local Shriners Club, tell them their little hats are stupid, then demand to pick their leadership. If I cared that much about who led them (and what they wore), I’d join the organization.

It costs nothing to be a Democrat. It’s free! Just check a box! And then you don’t have to worry about primary deadlines or whatnot. And if that’s too much of a lift for you, then too bad—you shouldn’t have a say until the general election rolls around. (And yes, I think parties should take over from the states and handle the nomination stuff themselves.)

That said, there have been 23 open contests, and Clinton has won 13 of them. That’s a majority. So even this stupid talking point is stupid. And you know what makes it even more stupid? Take away caucuses, so that we’re just talking about open primaries, then Clinton has won open primaries 13-6.


Conclusion:

.....Being a sore loser won’t change those facts, that reality, or the fact that we have bigger issues to deal with than Sanders’ insane temper tantrum.



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Kos Scorches Bitter Bernie in latest blog entry (Original Post) charlyvi May 2016 OP
K&R Bleacher Creature May 2016 #1
Bernie has a new gig over at Fox these days nt msongs May 2016 #2
I hear he's being considered for Palin's old post! Walk away May 2016 #6
Wonderful charlyvi May 2016 #7
KnR Her Sister May 2016 #3
Nicely done Markos. nt BootinUp May 2016 #4
After my own heart, Kos. Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #5
This is an amazingly good post. Not only does he spooky3 May 2016 #8
Reason 2 is awesome as well charlyvi May 2016 #9
+1000 LisaM May 2016 #11
very, very good, Mr. Kos. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #10
Stolen from the comments: TwilightZone May 2016 #12
His Revolution done fizzled! charlyvi May 2016 #14
Perfect.. thank you! Cha May 2016 #22
I figured it might come in handy. TwilightZone May 2016 #23
Really.. good snag. Cha May 2016 #24
Cha! You always find the best posters!!!! Her Sister May 2016 #25
I just stole that from Twilight Zone who lifted it from the comments @ Kos.. Cha May 2016 #27
Man Kos has some great points GusBob May 2016 #13
K&R fleabiscuit May 2016 #15
Great take down of the stupid open primary talking point. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #16
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #17
K n R DLCWIdem May 2016 #18
K&R COLGATE4 May 2016 #19
Wow, that's a great post NastyRiffraff May 2016 #20
That's perfect, too.. they are all zeroing in on the very essence of burnie sanders. Cha May 2016 #26
I like the very first paragraph.. Cha May 2016 #21
If you want to choose the Democratic nominee, become a Democrat. - Love this! liberal N proud May 2016 #28
Awesome post! SharonClark May 2016 #29
KOS did a great job here Gothmog May 2016 #30
My favorite right here... JSup May 2016 #31
"Like a despotic dictator, he is so sure of his supremacy..." NurseJackie May 2016 #32
For the past mercuryblues May 2016 #33
Your Shriners' analogy is right on!!!! nt LAS14 May 2016 #34

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
6. I hear he's being considered for Palin's old post!
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

Does that mean that Jane will be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars"????

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
8. This is an amazingly good post. Not only does he
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

Highlight several arguments others have made, he also introduces several new (at least to me) good ones.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
9. Reason 2 is awesome as well
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:46 PM
May 2016

2. He may want to disenfranchise them, but communities of color voted against Sanders

Take another moment to savor what that would mean—a party establishment ignoring the choice of the communities of color, who have heavily chosen a woman, to undemocratically hand the nomination to yet another white guy. That, my friends, is the essence of white privilege. It’s EXHIBIT A, and in case you are wondering, yes it fucking pisses me off.

I get that it’s really hard for the old guard to surrender power, but this is a new party, and one that gives voice to more people than ever before. You want someone with Bernie’s politics to get the nomination, perhaps find someone who isn’t from the whitest state in the union, unable or unwilling to deal with the communities that drive our modern party.

Fact is, Clinton won people of color by massive margins. Sanders won white people. Sanders thinks the election results should be tossed aside in his favor. Whose votes would be disenfranchised in that scenario? This is simple extrapolation, and don’t think us people of color aren’t noticing.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square

Cha

(297,323 posts)
27. I just stole that from Twilight Zone who lifted it from the comments @ Kos..
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:05 PM
May 2016

It is perfect, though!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
20. Wow, that's a great post
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

I particularly liked this one:

8. The system wasn’t rigged because red states voted

Democrats all over the country get to choose the nominee, and that includes African Americans in southern states, and Latinos in places like Arizona and Texas. And if you have a problem with that, fuck you. Seriously, I can’t believe that in this day and age, people are trying to argue that the votes of these critical communities of color don’t matter.

You know what would rig the system? Disenfranchising those voters. Maybe just let the whitest states vote? Would that make Sanders happy? Apparently, since that’s exactly what he is arguing.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
26. That's perfect, too.. they are all zeroing in on the very essence of burnie sanders.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

And, now he's got cornel west on his "committee" for the DNC platform.. that's one reason he lost so many AA votes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=142613

Cha

(297,323 posts)
21. I like the very first paragraph..
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016
Bernie Sanders exceeded all primary season expectations and was en route to building something of a real movement. But rather than locking in those gains and settling in for a long-haul effort, he’s opted for a legacy-busting temper tantrum instead, heading out the (primary) door in a cloud of whining, conspiracy mongering, and blame casting. It’s a bizarre finale to what was undoubtedly an incredible run. So here are some observations, not because it matters—he’s lost—but because his claims of victimhood are absolute bullshit and need to be corrected.

2. He may want to disenfranchise them, but communities of color voted against Sanders

Take another moment to savor what that would mean—a party establishment ignoring the choice of the communities of color, who have heavily chosen a woman, to undemocratically hand the nomination to yet another white guy. That, my friends, is the essence of white privilege. It’s EXHIBIT A, and in case you are wondering, yes it fucking pisses me off.

Thank you, Charly!

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
28. If you want to choose the Democratic nominee, become a Democrat. - Love this!
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

Primaries are party elections, not part of the party? That's your problem.

JSup

(740 posts)
31. My favorite right here...
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:38 AM
May 2016
8. The system wasn’t rigged because red states voted

Democrats all over the country get to choose the nominee, and that includes African Americans in southern states, and Latinos in places like Arizona and Texas. And if you have a problem with that, fuck you. Seriously, I can’t believe that in this day and age, people are trying to argue that the votes of these critical communities of color don’t matter.

You know what would rig the system? Disenfranchising those voters. Maybe just let the whitest states vote? Would that make Sanders happy? Apparently, since that’s exactly what he is arguing.


Says it like I've been wanting to.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. "Like a despotic dictator, he is so sure of his supremacy..."
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:00 PM
May 2016
Like a despotic dictator, he is so sure of his supremacy that he sneers at the choices of his electorate and seeks to callously toss them aside. He dishonestly tells his supporters that there’s a conspiracy standing between him and victory.





mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
33. For the past
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

several weeks I have been seeing an uptick in my local (redstatistan) news comment section...Hitler/Nazi Germany was Socialist too.

Yes, I know that is not true in the context they mean it. It is a preview of what would be said about Sanders had he won the primary. For all those who say that he would easily beat Trump, consider this....The republicans haven't even started bashing Bernie on a national level.

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