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Sancho

(9,070 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:32 PM May 2016

It's down to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands now!! Sorry Jersey shore and Cali...

Hillary needs 74 delegates now that SDs continue to commit. Four more today.
Needed to win nomination: 2,383
Hillary Clinton: 2,309 (includes 540 super delegates)
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-delegate-tracker/

Puerto Rico has 67 and the Virgin Islands have 12. Their primaries are June 4 and 5.
Hillary could be the winner before NJ or California even start!!



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It's down to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands now!! Sorry Jersey shore and Cali... (Original Post) Sancho May 2016 OP
We might win them all!!! bravenak May 2016 #1
Sweet! brer cat May 2016 #16
pssst...she's already gotten 7 of the supers from PR and USVI... Princess Turandot May 2016 #2
so...she needs 74 out of 204 from the Islands + SDs left !! Sancho May 2016 #3
Winning~ sheshe2 May 2016 #13
Yep! nt Princess Turandot May 2016 #14
I would probably give her all of the uncomitted NV SDs including Roberta Lange. SaschaHM May 2016 #4
Yes, Roberta Lange isn't committed yet, but she went into their convention as a Sanders supporter... George II May 2016 #6
I can't imagine why Lange might switch her support sarae May 2016 #10
I've heard that before. LiberalFighter May 2016 #24
It was in one of the news reports about the convention mayhem. George II May 2016 #30
That is probably where I have seen it too. LiberalFighter May 2016 #35
I'd be shocked if we took 'em all. Even if we get half of that lot, we're so close to the finish MADem May 2016 #5
Seems a stretch, but it will be fun to watch. nt BootinUp May 2016 #7
Here are a few of the Supers who have not indicated DURHAM D May 2016 #8
She probably needs around 25 more to end it BootinUp May 2016 #9
If the islands take her close enough, how sweet if they'd coordinate to put her over the top Rose Siding May 2016 #36
Most of those have and are very influential in the Democratic party, and for reasons of unity I still_one May 2016 #15
I'm hoping that the big hitters will come out for Hillary...maybe Memorial Day? Sancho May 2016 #17
HAHA sarae May 2016 #19
The supers need to step up and endorse Hill now stopbush May 2016 #11
I wouldn't be surprised if his latest stunt doesn't put the rest of them over the edge. sarae May 2016 #20
They are probably nearly tipping that way. LiberalFighter May 2016 #25
Honestly, I'd almost rather they didn't. TwilightZone May 2016 #27
Donna Bazille said she was not going to endorse now but I listen to her and know where Thinkingabout May 2016 #12
When this is over, Hillary may have a really large winning margin at the convention. Sancho May 2016 #18
K&R! Cha May 2016 #21
Awesome.....n/t asuhornets May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Fla Dem May 2016 #23
I'd like her to win this WITHOUT the superdelegates. Can this be done? Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #26
Most likely, no libegal May 2016 #28
It's a different number without the super delegates to get to 1/2... Sancho May 2016 #29
No libegal May 2016 #31
It's clear that our Democratic Leaders support Hillary. FarPoint May 2016 #32
No one tallies the delegates officially until the convention...it's all presumptive until then. Sancho May 2016 #33
Known Unpledged Delegate Breakdowns LiberalFighter May 2016 #34
It's possible but not likely beachbumbob May 2016 #37
That would be sweet! NastyRiffraff May 2016 #38

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
2. pssst...she's already gotten 7 of the supers from PR and USVI...
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

so right now, only 72 dels are available there...(Scroll down to them on bloomberg)

but there are 132 supers still open altogether, so you never know!

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
3. so...she needs 74 out of 204 from the Islands + SDs left !!
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:51 PM
May 2016

Cool. I hope the Blemmings continue to harass the SDs!

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
4. I would probably give her all of the uncomitted NV SDs including Roberta Lange.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

It will be a cold day in hell before they flock to Sanders.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Yes, Roberta Lange isn't committed yet, but she went into their convention as a Sanders supporter...
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

....and I seriously doubt that's still the case.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
10. I can't imagine why Lange might switch her support
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:30 AM
May 2016

to Clinton - how odd! What could possibly have made her change her mind?

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
35. That is probably where I have seen it too.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

I was hoping there was something that predates the convention.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. I'd be shocked if we took 'em all. Even if we get half of that lot, we're so close to the finish
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

line it doesn't matter.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
8. Here are a few of the Supers who have not indicated
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:13 AM
May 2016

a preference -

President Obama
VP Biden
Pres. Jimmy Carter
Al Gore
Senator Fred Harris (former)
Senator Elizabeth Warren
Sen. Jon Tester
Cong. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Cong. Nancy Pelosi
Donna Brazile
James Roosevelt
Leah Daughtry
Andrew Tobias

Do you think Hil might get a few of these?

BootinUp

(47,151 posts)
9. She probably needs around 25 more to end it
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

before NJ. That assumes a 60% win in these earlier primaries.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
15. Most of those have and are very influential in the Democratic party, and for reasons of unity I
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:59 AM
May 2016

don't think they will endorse until all the primaries are over, and most won't do it until a nominee has been officially determined



Sancho

(9,070 posts)
17. I'm hoping that the big hitters will come out for Hillary...maybe Memorial Day?
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:32 AM
May 2016

At this point, it's time to put Bernie "to heel". He's causing more trouble with this Trump debate (even though it's getting news off of the emails). I noticed he's not attacking Hillary as much. Maybe someone in the DNC got to him.

If the SDs keep piling on, it will be a great June for Hillary.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
11. The supers need to step up and endorse Hill now
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:38 AM
May 2016

to push Sanders out of the picture. They have it in their power to do so, and they should do so for the good of the party.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
20. I wouldn't be surprised if his latest stunt doesn't put the rest of them over the edge.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:47 AM
May 2016

Way to go at winning those superdelegates, Bernie!

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
25. They are probably nearly tipping that way.
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

But keeping their cool and possibly planning on other actions after the general election.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
27. Honestly, I'd almost rather they didn't.
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

I think if they wait until after June 7th when the media declares a winner, it would better tone down all of the SD nonsense (not with the most fervent, of course, but with everyone else). If enough switch to swing it before then, we'll never hear the end of it.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
12. Donna Bazille said she was not going to endorse now but I listen to her and know where
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:49 AM
May 2016

it was going. She still has herself and Bill, it just may be it happens before PR and VI. Where ever and when ever I will be happy but I will also be happy to get the delegates from the other primaries. She needs about 248 pledged delegates to the half of them, I would like to see MORE MORE MORE.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
18. When this is over, Hillary may have a really large winning margin at the convention.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:35 AM
May 2016

I see her winning on June 7 anyway according to 538 projections for CA and NJ. It would be really nice to see about 50 SDs put the primary out of sight this weekend.

Response to Sancho (Original post)

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
26. I'd like her to win this WITHOUT the superdelegates. Can this be done?
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

I don't want anyone to be able to say that she needs the superdelegates to win.

libegal

(2 posts)
28. Most likely, no
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:36 PM
May 2016

She a bit over 600 down without superdelegates, so no - the probability of that happening is not likely. Super delegates technically do not count until the convention - so although some news networks may call for her on the 7th this will almost certainly be a contested convention unless there is some sort of wild card--Hillary's indicted, Sanders decides to run as an independent etc.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
29. It's a different number without the super delegates to get to 1/2...
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

The process is really set up to include pledged and super delegates, not anything else.

libegal

(2 posts)
31. No
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

Technically super delegates do not count until convention - that's where their vote is locked in. As i've said, the various news organizations might call it for her because they are factoring in the super delegates but since they have until the convention to change their mind technically no one can be officially the nominee.

FarPoint

(12,383 posts)
32. It's clear that our Democratic Leaders support Hillary.
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

I expect no less than 100% for the list above to vote Hillary.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
33. No one tallies the delegates officially until the convention...it's all presumptive until then.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

If you only count pledged delegates, you reduce the "total" to get to one half...but it's irrelevant. The system includes super delegates.

With the current Hillary lead, committed super delegates will vote the way they commit, just like pledged delegates are "pledged", unless there is some really crazy event before the convention. A recount in KY could change the pledged delegates too.

If Bernie conceded, his super delegates might switch publicly to Hillary. There's no realistic reason Hillary isn't the "presumptive" nominee whenever she has a combination of pledged and committed delegates that total more than half.

Actually, if you count those who are politically correct SDs (like Obama), she is pretty close or over the number now.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
34. Known Unpledged Delegate Breakdowns
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

DNC Members: 122
Party Leaders: 7
Governors: 4
Representatives: 13
Senators: 5

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
37. It's possible but not likely
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:26 PM
May 2016

But hey at least we aren't threatening super delegates like sanders people are doing

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
38. That would be sweet!
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:05 PM
May 2016

I doubt it will happen, but it'll at least put her in petting distance to victory!

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