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BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:24 AM May 2016

Which two presidential candidates share a secrecy problem? Hint: Neither is named Clinton.

Crosspost from GD-P.

TWITTER EXPLODED Thursday with talk of a possible Donald Trump-Bernie Sanders debate before California’s June 7 primary. On at least one level, we think it would be appropriate for them to share a stage, since they also share an unacceptable lack of transparency.

Mr. Trump’s refusal to release his tax returns has been much discussed. Despite repeated promises to show his returns to voters, as every candidate of the modern era has done, he has found excuse after excuse to delay or deny the need to do so. The returns are under audit, he says — which does not prevent him from releasing what he submitted and swore was true. Tax returns do not show very much, he says — which makes us wonder why he is spending so much time and rhetorical effort keeping them hidden. Theories abound: He pays little or no tax; he does not have the income one would expect for someone who claims to be so successful; he gives little or nothing to charity.

Mr. Sanders’s stinginess with information has received less attention, but not because he has been much more forthcoming. The senator from Vermont has released a single year’s tax return — for 2014 — and only then after pressure from reporters. Before releasing his full 2014 return, he argued that his tax information is not particularly interesting. As with Mr. Trump, this has given rise to speculation about possible reasons for the delay and limited openness. Is Mr. Sanders, for example, attempting to avoid more scrutiny of his wife’s severance package from Burlington College? The liberal-arts school she headed subsequently was forced to close due to mismanagement and a dire lack of money.

Hillary Clinton long ago released eight years of tax returns. Jeb Bush released tax returns going back to 1981. Even Mitt Romney, who was reluctant to release his returns, eventually offered two years of tax information in 2012. Meanwhile, Mr. Sanders promised in April, “We will get out as much information as we can.” Clearly, he is not meeting his own standard. . . .

Both Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump are eroding an important norm in American political life — the expectation that voters should have a sense of presidential candidates’ financial conduct before they choose who should lead the country. As long as Mr. Sanders is a legitimate candidate, he does not deserve a pass./div]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/which-two-presidential-candidates-share-a-secrecy-problem-hint-neither-is-named-clinton/2016/05/26/abce571c-2384-11e6-aa84-42391ba52c91_story.html
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Which two presidential candidates share a secrecy problem? Hint: Neither is named Clinton. (Original Post) BainsBane May 2016 OP
Now the "when she releases speech transcripts" screams can start. The tax returns show much more tonyt53 May 2016 #1
Oh, they are all over my GD-P posting of this BainsBane May 2016 #3
Continual double standards and hypocrisy. yallerdawg May 2016 #2
No one in history has disclosed as much as Hillary. Tal Vez May 2016 #4
And yet she is the candidate who "can't be trusted." stopbush May 2016 #6
Maybe the mod @ faux or wherever they have their debate will ask BS & DT if they're Cha May 2016 #5
Aloha Cha! stopbush May 2016 #7
Aloha to you, stop! Cha May 2016 #9
Thanks for posting! Adding to my 2 OP on BS not yet releasing full taxes returns: Her Sister May 2016 #8
Enormous K & R. Thanks so much for posting. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #10
K & R Koinos May 2016 #11
More similarities liberal N proud May 2016 #12
Love that headline. Thanks for posting, Bainsbane! SunSeeker May 2016 #13
K&R! DemonGoddess May 2016 #14

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
3. Oh, they are all over my GD-P posting of this
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

with no embarrassment about such blatant double standards.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. Continual double standards and hypocrisy.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

Have you ever heard a presidential candidate dismissively answer, "Ask my wife - she handles all that?"

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
4. No one in history has disclosed as much as Hillary.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:42 AM
May 2016

She has submitted decades of tax returns. She has raised the standard for all other candidates, now and in the future.

Tax returns are immensely informative. Just try to get a loan for a home by telling the bank that tax returns aren't important. Trump and Sanders are trying to shortchange the voters.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
5. Maybe the mod @ faux or wherever they have their debate will ask BS & DT if they're
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:45 AM
May 2016

going to release their taxes like Hillary has? Ha! Fat chance.

Mr. Sanders’s stinginess with information has received less attention, but not because he has been much more forthcoming. The senator from Vermont has released a single year’s tax return — for 2014 — and only then after pressure from reporters. Before releasing his full 2014 return, he argued that his tax information is not particularly interesting. As with Mr. Trump, this has given rise to speculation about possible reasons for the delay and limited openness. Is Mr. Sanders, for example, attempting to avoid more scrutiny of his wife’s severance package from Burlington College? The liberal-arts school she headed subsequently was forced to close due to mismanagement and a dire lack of money.

Thank you for this, BB.
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
8. Thanks for posting! Adding to my 2 OP on BS not yet releasing full taxes returns:
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016
BS & JS : RELEASE THE TAXES BEFORE JUNE 7th ~ 3 WEEKS! (GDP)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511992682

and

BS & JS : RELEASE THE TAXES BEFORE JUNE 7th ~ 3 WEEKS! (HRC GP)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107137326


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