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MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:51 PM May 2016

Excuse Us, Bernie Sanders, But Nobody Appointed YOU Savior of the Democratic Party

http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-sanders-nobody-appointed-you-savior-of-the-democratic-party/

By Melissa McEwan

In a Q&A with TIME, Bernie Sanders positions himself as arbiter of the Democratic Party’s future, goes hard negative on the Clintons, calls a progressive activist (and a BNR founder) “scum of the Earth,” and reiterates one of the most delusional talking points of 2015—that he’s the “strongest candidate to beat Donald Trump.” We are longtime activists, advocates, and Democrats, and we reject the hubris that would have one man disparage the work of millions who don’t happen to agree with him.

Dear Bernie,

Reading your recent TIME interview, we felt the need to respond.

First, it says so much that you’re willing to use the term “scum of the earth” about someone who has helped build progressive infrastructure, but not about Donald Trump and his sleazy operatives, who you’re obsequiously hoping will breathe new life into your campaign.

Second, when you speak about the Democratic Party as its self-appointed savior, do you realize how that offends millions of rank and file Democrats who support the nominee-to-be Hillary Clinton? Not to mention the thousands of elected Democrats who have worked their hearts out to promote Democratic and progressive causes?

Do you really imagine that, at the local level, Democrats—elected and activists—are only debating whether or not they are beholden to Wall Street billionaires? We’re working ourselves to early graves fighting for clean water, good schools, early childcare programs, abortion access, jobs programs, equality measures, library funding, needle exchanges, infrastructure improvements, dog parks, lunch programs, fair housing, and countless other issues that are more immediate and personal than the sweeping broadsides you make against “the establishment.”

We support Hillary Clinton, but Hillary Clinton is not the entirety of the Democratic Party. The DNC is not the entirety of the Democratic Party. Do you not appreciate the irony that, by constantly attacking the Democratic Party as a monolith, you’re doing more to alienate and treat as irrelevant the average Democrat across this nation than the Democratic Party leadership ever has?

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Excuse Us, Bernie Sanders, But Nobody Appointed YOU Savior of the Democratic Party (Original Post) MrWendel May 2016 OP
You might not deserve him ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #1
I doubt... MrWendel May 2016 #2
I sure hope we don't deserve him Rose Siding May 2016 #4
Such vitriol ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #5
Your username and your tone give you away. You are in a protected group. Please leave. Koinos May 2016 #7
Give me away for what, exactly? ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #8
And that moment just arrived. Goodbye. George II May 2016 #29
Thanks George. Interesting that they setup their own rules. Whether it involves voting in still_one May 2016 #33
You really should brush up on your vocabulary caquillo May 2016 #10
Okie dokie ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #11
Can you explain this post please: Kingofalldems May 2016 #16
Don't waste your time waiting EileenFB May 2016 #18
He won't be answering,he's blocked. nt sufrommich May 2016 #27
Thanks, I really didn't expect one. Kingofalldems May 2016 #28
Vitriol? Did you not see the little winky face? Harrumph! Rose Siding May 2016 #14
Do you realize that this is the Hillary Clinton Group? Please delete your negative posts, thanks. George II May 2016 #25
You don't appear to be wired to tight. wisteria May 2016 #37
LOLOLOLOL sarae May 2016 #38
Bye shenmue May 2016 #9
You are in the Hillary Group. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Barbara Boxer, Joe Biden, etc. skylucy May 2016 #19
I want a hammer! fleabiscuit May 2016 #23
Uh... that would be a no.... CherokeeDem May 2016 #30
No thank you. wisteria May 2016 #36
He's not fucking Batman. He's not even close. jmowreader May 2016 #41
Guess he didn't accept Brock's apology. Did West ever bother to ask forgiveness for his crap? Rose Siding May 2016 #3
I can't find anything to disagree with in this article. Koinos May 2016 #6
Well, actually, I did. Fly by night May 2016 #12
This is a protected group. I guess you walked in the wrong door. Please delete. Koinos May 2016 #13
Yet millions more of us did not Rose Siding May 2016 #15
You are in the Hillary Group. Please go to the appropriate group. skylucy May 2016 #20
Bernie is not a Democrat and, at this point, it seems pretty apparent that he wants to destroy... Walk away May 2016 #22
Thanks for stopping by, and goodnight. George II May 2016 #26
Haa..Oh yes, the Socialist Indy turned dem socialist is going to save the Dem Party.. misterhighwasted May 2016 #31
Obviously, you do not hold a majority, wisteria May 2016 #39
You have definitely drank too much of the burnie koolaid.. it happens. Cha May 2016 #40
This savior thing is such a downer! Such a drag! Her Sister May 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #21
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess May 2016 #24
Yes, This ^ misterhighwasted May 2016 #32
Exactly! NastyRiffraff May 2016 #34
I'm not sure Mr. Wendel, I am thinking maybe the Pope did. We do not know what was still_one May 2016 #35

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
2. I doubt...
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:55 PM
May 2016

you read the article, or the name of this group. And HERO worship says allot about the problem with his support.

 
5. Such vitriol
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

I'm happy you can appreciate corruption though. Sometimes I wish I could ignore it the way some do. Just not how I'm wired I guess.

 
8. Give me away for what, exactly?
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:08 PM
May 2016

Regardless of the group its posted in I'll freely call out bullshit as I see fit until I am banned from doing so. I certainly wouldn't say that I have committed a bannable offense though.

still_one

(92,201 posts)
33. Thanks George. Interesting that they setup their own rules. Whether it involves voting in
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

California, or respecting the statement of purpose of a group, they don't believe they need to follow the rules.


caquillo

(521 posts)
10. You really should brush up on your vocabulary
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

'Vitriol' refers to cruel, bitter, and abusive criticism. Nothing Rose Siding wrote was any of that. She merely stated her boundaries.

Jesus, you people are thin-skinned!



EileenFB

(360 posts)
18. Don't waste your time waiting
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

on a response. This person could care less about protected groups, they just have to get their digs in no matter what.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
14. Vitriol? Did you not see the little winky face? Harrumph!
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Is that cross heavy? (Now that's vitriolic. But not as much so as the aspersions cast about me in your pious response )

skylucy

(3,739 posts)
19. You are in the Hillary Group. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Barbara Boxer, Joe Biden, etc.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

are the heroes we Democrats believe in and need. HILLARY 2016!

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
36. No thank you.
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

I don't like a lot of the people he praises and supports, nor do I like him as a person. The question is what did the good Democrat party ever do to have to be subjected to this angry, negative man?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
41. He's not fucking Batman. He's not even close.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:25 AM
May 2016

Please DO NOT bring this crap into a protected group and expect to be let off lightly.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
3. Guess he didn't accept Brock's apology. Did West ever bother to ask forgiveness for his crap?
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

I'm finding Sanders' position on this to be ungracious and hypocritical.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
6. I can't find anything to disagree with in this article.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

Bernie lacks self-knowledge. He judges others, but he does not cross-examine himself. He blames others, but he accepts no responsibility for his own words and actions. He rouses anger in himself and others, but he has no idea how to put it out. He finds fault with Democrats, but he does not acknowledge their heroic efforts to make things better. When people succeed, it is because they stand on the shoulders of others, not because they shove others aside.

Fly by night

(5,265 posts)
12. Well, actually, I did.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

And so did millions of non-DLC Democrats and independents who are sick and tired of the Kochsucker brothers buying both sides of the aisle.

Bernie 2016.
While we still have a
Democratic Party
worth saving.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
22. Bernie is not a Democrat and, at this point, it seems pretty apparent that he wants to destroy...
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016
the Democratic party.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
31. Haa..Oh yes, the Socialist Indy turned dem socialist is going to save the Dem Party..
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

He likes Fidel Castros governance.
Yup, bern turns corporate fast food into a drive-thru breadline.
I'm sure the bernie college kids will be grateful.

"Hey I went for a double cheese burger with fries & large drink, & all I got was a loaf of bread!"

Yup, he'll be a hero alright.

Good Luck wiith that bern

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
39. Obviously, you do not hold a majority,
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

If you did your hero Sander's wouldn't be losing and you could go off and form your own party and stop meddling in ours. Now fly off like Birdy Sander's.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
17. This savior thing is such a downer! Such a drag!
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

Am atheist! Not looking for any kind of savior! Savior wanna-bees! Self-appointed saviors! Not looking for any saving!

Just want smart people to be at the realm with a steady hand and a clear view and steer the country true north as much as it can be reached at any and every moment ~and when not correct back!

Response to MrWendel (Original post)

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
34. Exactly!
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

I think his hatred is nothing new, but lately he's been more open about it, as he sees his chance of being a demigod slipping away. Maybe he can gather all the BernieBros around him and have a big ol' group hug. After they bow down to him, that is.

I am SICK AND TIRED of this man! That is all.

still_one

(92,201 posts)
35. I'm not sure Mr. Wendel, I am thinking maybe the Pope did. We do not know what was
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

actually discussed in that meeting between the Pope and Bernie

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