Ipsos poll: Clinton, Biden, Sanders (Hillary Group)

[DeepModem Mom]

@Lompemann: Ipsos now has Biden doing better than Sanders among likely primary voters:

Hillary 63%
Biden 14%
Sanders 13%

http://t.co/IVuadbNXWp via Twitter

[Tommy2Tone]

1. Sanders is and always be a fringe candidate

He draws crowds of the young and the disgruntled. Very few Democrats support him and judging by the comments in Bernie stories he is mainly supported by those who hate Hillary.

Off Topic but my fear is these constant investigations will take a toll on her popularity in the general election.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

5. Don't be worried

Abusing investigations is what Republicans do. They did it against Bill, they did it against Barack, and they're trying to do it against Hillary. And yes, the perpetually outraged will give them cover: the Naderites, the Firebaggers, the anti-Democratic haters. But they're only the smallest fraction. Regular voters don't care about whiners whining, or the lies they make up.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[workinclasszero]

2. Lookin great Hillary!

I guess she's just not feelin the "bern", eh?

[lunamagica]

3. K&R. So even a someone who hasn't even entered the race is beating Sanders. So much for the "surge"

Go Hillary!

[SunSeeker]

4. Looks like Biden would take votes away from Bernie, not Hillary.

Hillary is looking really strong.

[Thinkingabout]

30. Agree.

[Gothmog]

6. These polling numbers are in line with the other recent polls

[msrizzo]

7. Thanks for sharing this....

I know I wouldn't have read it anywhere else but here.

[calimary]

24. Welcome to DU, msrizzo!

Haven't done that (welcoming anybody) in awhile, but then again, I'm not around much these days. Your point is a good one, though. One certainly wouldn't see an OP like this in many other places around DU, outside the Hillary Group. We are sorely outnumbered - at least here on this board.

I visited one thread today that was quite long and well-attended. And post after post after post after post had a Bernie-in-the-sig-line. And it wasn't even strictly speaking a thread about Bernie Sanders!

[mckara]

8. Voters Don't Know Bernie Yet

The polls will change after the first Democratic debate. Hillary and Biden represent yesterday, not tomorrow. We won't get fooled again!

[NYC Liberal]

9. Sanders has been in Congress for a quarter of a century.

If people still don't know who he is, then he has a very big problem.

(Or, maybe Democrats just don't want Sanders as their nominee, which is the more plausible explanation.)

[okasha]

26. One more perfirmance like this afternoon's,

and Sanders won't make it to October. The "debates" will turn into Hillary interviewing the also-rans for Cabinet posts and Ambassadorships.

[OKNancy]

10. this is the Hillary group, a protected group for supporters only

delete your post please

But before you go... Hillary will wipe Sanders off the floor in a debate. I have no idea why people think Sanders would do that well in a debate. All he does is bluster.

[lunamagica]

13. I keep reading how Sanders will "crush" Hillary after the first debate. Yet his supporters want

to have more (way more), than six debates.

So, if everything will change with one debate, why so desperate to have more than six?

[Cha]

14. Nah, the more I know about bernie the less I like him. Hillary will be the best POTUS at this

time in History.

[Tarheel_Dem]

27. He's been on Capitol Hill for decades, and people still don't know him? You'd like to think that.

He's still mired in single digits with minorities and it's not because "we don't know him yet"; quite the contrary, WE DO know him, that's a really big problem for BS.

[StoneCarver]

11. I have to ask why?

As Democrat Hillary mystifies me. Why would a person want to return to the Oval Office "scene of the crime" which your husband occupied. I would love to see a woman elected President but this is the wrong person at the wrong time. There's just something about her I just can't put my finger on that disturbs me. I think it's because she appears to want the job only for the power, not to help us little people. But to a larger point, I think Americans are sick of Clinton Bush dynasties. I have no idea how this will turn out (until Nate Silver weighs in). But the democrats have Bernie and the republicans have Trump -we are starting to wake up. I hope it's in time. The 1% is watching.
Stonecarver

[OKNancy]

12. THis is the Hillary group for supporters only

[okasha]

25. But I like the comparison of Sanders to Trump.

Bearing in mind that Trump made a total ass of himself in my hometown recently.

[Cha]

15. Those who are smart know that Hillary is her own woman and calling it a "dynasty" is sexist

and demagogic.

[freshwest]

17. Nate Silver has weighed in and finds HRC the nominee:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-hillary-clinton-steamroller-rumbles-to-life/

Regarding the General, Nate had reservations which have nothing to do with her, just history:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-begins-the-2016-campaign-and-its-a-toss-up/

He still gives her a 50% chance if things are going well before the election. I'm pretty sure the GOP is planning an 'October Surprise,' as they brag about how well those have worked in the past.

[George II]

19. A few comments

The first analysis is telling, she's gotten more Senate endorsements earlier than probably any candidate in history, and she's been building on those since the article was written in April.

She's maintained solid support since early this year, still more than all other opponents (including "not sure"!) combined. Yes, there was a "Sanders Surge" in the May/June timeframe, but that just got him from single digits to mid-teens, where he seems to have leveled off.

I'd be interested in an updated assessment to the 50% conclusion from back in April. At that time there wasn't yet a clown car full of republican hopefuls and there wasn't a Donald Trump in play. My guess is that he'd see her at better than 50% with those developments.

Overall, it's looking very good for Hillary Clinton. That's probably why she was mentioned dozens of times at the republican debate on Thursday, Sanders not once.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. "single digits to mid-teens, where he seems to have leveled off. "

That's why they want a thousand debates. I didn't watch the Republican debates, but I'm guessing BS didn't come up much. They know who our nominee will be, and their operatives are all over the place, including here, trying to prevent it.

[George II]

29. Clinton was mentioned 38 times, Sanders none.

[Walk away]

20. Keep making up little stories in your mind about other people' motivations!

They mean nothing, have no basis in fact and are just useless drivel but, you get to annoy everyone here so, I guess you have accomplished something for yourself today.

[cosmicone]

23. Dear low post count poster

Everyone who runs for POTUS is doing it for power

Everyone who is running has a big ego -- all of them

Our job is to choose someone who can be successful in a general election AND who can deliver most of what we want.

So, a few may be sick of Clinton and Bush but they both will end up being the nominees. The fringe candidates always make headlines and draw crowds of disgruntled and depressed and unstable people but don't end up on the tickets.

Now ... you may want to choose another forum.

[Cha]

16. Mahalo for this poll, DMM!

[George II]

18. No big surprise - and no doubt if Biden decides not to run most of his support will go to Clinton

[riversedge]

21. still there is a -+25% of folks who will not be voting (Dems)...

Not sure if I understand this chart too well but you can remove all filters to get the totals:


http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TR131/type/smallest/dates/20150610-20150807/collapsed/false

[cosmicone]

22. St. Bernard is getting whooped. n/t

[Thinkingabout]

31. Maybe when the governor and other senator gets to know Bernie but so far they have endorsed Hillary.