So now its Hillary may have won, but not by enough

[BootinUp]

This place is trying to get to me.

Ok, I guess it did a little.

[Treant]

1. What would you call

the person who wins by 1 vote? The presumptive nominee.

By over 3,000,000 votes? The same, but it wasn't even close.

[George II]

2. The one that makes me laugh the most is that even though Sanders got his butt kicked....

...by Clinton in the primaries, "he's the better General Election candidate"!

[Koinos]

4. If they couldn't get out the vote for the messiah to defeat Hillary in the primary.

How do they expect the acolytes to vote in the general for a mere human?

[BlueCaliDem]

7. Yep. It's also BS's meme - he would easily win from Twisted-Trump. Uh...not according to the primary

results in Washington State and Nebraska when one-person-one-vote is used rather than the undemocratic caucus-system.

For the life of me, I can't understand how anyone can say, with a straight face, that Sanders is a stronger candidate against Twisted-Trump than Hillary Clinton. The voting totals don't bear that out!

The only numbers that appear to favor Sanders are from professional pollsters who can change the outcome depending on the variables they use - and by now we all know that pollsters are bought and paid for machines by pro-GOP people who'd rather see Sanders as the Democratic Party nominee because he's easiest to beat.

[yallerdawg]

11. It's even worse than that!

Trump has kicked his ass in popular vote and won more states from sea to shining sea.

And where Bernie "claims" to bring out 'new Democrats' while Democratic primary voting has declined, Trump has had more primary votes than any Republican candidate in history!

And - somehow miraculously - Bernie would trounce him in the General Election?

Well - we know better!

AND - Hillary is kicking both their asses in popular vote!!!

Reality or fantasy? I'll stick with the real voting over some imaginary futuristic polling.

[dubyadiprecession]

26. Yallerdawg, you have been paying attention...

The BS crowd will probably dislike you for it, but you make sense and have my respect.

[yallerdawg]

31. I'm pretty safe from them.

"Ignore" isn't just a river in Egypt!

I wish we could tally how may DUers have no idea what we post or comment!

[teamster633]

15. As someone pointed out last night (or early this morning)...

...the idea that a self-avowed socialist could ever win the presidency in these United States is insane. To the disinterested voter being polled at this point in the process, Bernie is an outsider, and they like that. When they inevitably find out what he is beyond that, I doubt he could a win a state beyond his own (if even that).

[George II]

18. He'd win Vermont, and maybe even New Hampshire. Other than the southern part of NH....

...(essentially suburbs of Boston) both states probably have among the oddest electorates in the country, and among the most rural all-white electorates.

[teamster633]

21. I think he'd take Massachusetts before he took New Hampshire.

We're a suburb of Mass to the extent that there are a lot of low-tax/right-wing refugees here. Considering our unfortunate libertarian leanings, tRump vs. Sanders here would go to tRump.

[fleabiscuit]

25. Apparently bros feel ENTITLED enough to assume Hillary supporters...

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will fall in line and vote for total BS all the while they are threatening to stay home or vote Dump when Hillary becomes the nominee.

[TwilightZone]

3. As I posted in one of those threads, 57/43 or 55/45 is a blowout in any other context.

They're just grasping at straws, looking for anything that will give them a moment's smug satisfaction.

I'm to the point now that I either ignore it or I provide a counter-argument and move on. They can blather on without me.

[Cha]

5. Oh she won enough.. and burnie lost by enough.. and he's not over losing yet.

[CrowCityDem]

6. They're spinning it as...

since Hillary didn't win by the biggest margin ever, it shows how weak she is. Never mind that they also try to say that Bill Bradley was a 'more formidable' opponent to the sitting Vice President coming off the best eight years in generations. It's laughable how they don't understand how times change.

[sarae]

32. It still blows my mind

how the losing candidate's supporters claim that the winning (by A LOT) opponent is the "weak" one. Can anyone explain to me how that works?

[puffy socks]

8. I think it gets to everyone now and then.

But when it starts to make me feel even a little bit bitter I can still fall back on the fact that Hillary won , and there's not a thing these people can do about it.

[beachbum bob]

9. ramblings by those who have sour grapes....

you win when you win and you lose when you lose


there is NO in between. I win a basketball game when I score more points and the margin of victory has nothing to do with the "win"

[WhiteTara]

10. The ever moving goal posts

can smash one in the head from time to time!

[Iliyah]

12. Rigged. Most know it wasn't, but their whinning meme.

Or, FBI will wait for HRC to be nominated first, then indict, and VP Biden will take over, making sure that BS does not get the nomination.

There are a lot more . . . . .

[Thinkingabout]

17. The delegates are Hillary's, she has not released them, she will not be releasing them to Sanders.

If Sanders withdrew a month ago, he still has his delegates. These thoughts are fueled by Karl Rovian thinking as his theory was crashing and burning. Weaver would not admit Sanders is losing, it interferes with his lie to Sanders supporters.

[fleabiscuit]

27. Most excellent point Thinkingabout. nt

[Starry Messenger]

13. Life as woman, in a nutshell

[skylucy]

14. Unbelievable isn't it? That the person who is winning decisively is talked about like she is

losing by the pundits. Because...She should be winning by an even greater margin?! More of the media working hard to prop up the loser Bernie and try to take down Hillary. Such total Bull****.

[sarae]

33. The media is working overtime to make it a horse race.

I have to keep double-checking 538, because yesterday and today the news has been saying that Clinton and Sanders are "neck and neck" in polling for the CA primary. Then I check and see that, yep, I'm not crazy – the latest poll shows her 18 points ahead of Bernie. WTF. They just refuse to acknowledge the latest poll.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/california-democratic/

[anotherproletariat]

16. I think what they don't want to admit is that some Sanders supporters are really more

similar in philosophical beliefs to Trump, and are planning on voting for him in the general over Hillary. The problem is that they vastly overestimate this population, since they tend to be surrounded by like-minded people so fail to see the big picture.

[LiberalFighter]

23. 3 key points you have there.

[fleabiscuit]

28. +1

[stopbush]

19. Sad. Every second and every dollar they waste imagining Sanders can still win

is time and money that could be spent getting Hillary elected.

[OhZone]

20. Pure sexism. nt

[charlyvi]

22. Hillary is winning by more than Obama won in '08

And no one said Obama was barely winning. I wonder what the difference is between then and now? Oh, right! She's a woman.

[sarae]

34. ^THIS^

So true...

[TeamPooka]

24. and Im so sick of the "but independants vote for him" bullshit too. This is about our party choosing

a nominee
you want a say? register as a Democrat please.

[DemonGoddess]

29. +1000!

[still_one]

30. As Nate Silver has said, "The System Isn't 'rigged' Against Sanders. Clinton's winning because more

Democrats want her to be the nominee.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/