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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:46 PM May 2016

It’s time to look in the mirror, Bernie: Now, more than ever, Sanders needs to be criticized(HRCGP)

It’s time to look in the mirror, Bernie: Now, more than ever, Sanders needs to be criticized for his failed political theories

Sanders backers must stop calling Clinton a "sore winner," and instead learn the right lessons from his failure

Even though Bernie Sanders continues to push the notion that he has a chance at the Democratic nomination, many of his supporters are beginning to accept that it’s all but mathematically impossible at this point for him to pull it out. So a new narrative is starting to form, about how it’s supposedly time for Hillary Clinton supporters to shut up, cease criticizing the candidate, and let him and his people continue to lambast Clinton daily without any counter fire.

Call it the “sore winner” narrative and it’s starting to take off in grumpy Sanders circles.


Jonathan Cohn ‎@JonathanCohn
.@ddguttenplan: "If Hillary Clinton doesn’t stop being such a sore winner, she may well end up a sore loser." http://www.thenation.com/article/to-win-in-november-hillary-clinton-will-need-bernie-sanderss-voters/
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My mom always said "only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner" and I think that's why I can't stand hearing about hillary Clinton
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Matt Thomas ‎@Blackharp
My take on the Clinton aide saying "Fuck you" to Sanders. The only thing people hate more than a sore loser is a sore winner.
1:25 PM - 20 Apr 2016


Most of this is, of course, just people projecting their own feelings onto Clinton and has nothing to do with her actual behavior. As Greg Sargent of the Washington Post notes, “Clinton and her campaign are actually trying to signal to Democrats that they should dial down the hostilities with Sanders and his supporters.” Gender only intensifies this, of course, as women are already expected to beat themselves up and gesticulate about how unworthy they are, and so simply seeing a woman who is gracious but unapologetic pisses people off.

But this grousing is also an attempt to silence anyone who might continue to criticize Sanders, Clinton supporter or not. Which is understandable, to a large degree. After all, as the blogger Duncan Black notes, it’s not like doing so will win over any primary votes this late in the game, and it doesn’t really matter one way or another if it does. “Clinton won. It’s over,” he complains.


More in link: http://www.salon.com/2016/05/28/its_time_to_look_in_the_mirror_bernie_now_more_than_ever_sanders_needs_to_be_criticized_for_his_failed_political_theories/
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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
1. For one thing, Sanders refuses to accept that this is over. As long as he’s saying that, he needs to
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016
For one thing, Sanders refuses to accept that this is over. As long as he’s saying that, he needs to be treated like we would any other candidate. It’s ridiculous to coddle him and treat him like an old coot who needs to be handled with kid gloves like he doesn’t know any better.


http://www.salon.com/2016/05/28/its_time_to_look_in_the_mirror_bernie_now_more_than_ever_sanders_needs_to_be_criticized_for_his_failed_political_theories/
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. Too bad we can't have a do over...Hillary could have easily destroyed
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

Sanders from the gitgo....instead she took a gracious stance with the old socialist...A huge mistake that brought us to this point. Sanders could been made to look like the ranting and raving old fool he is the moment he was allowed to run as a democrat in our primaries...would have taken a few weeks of tv ads...and Hillary going directly at sanders and his record.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. That's a great "Salon" piece!
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016
To wit, the Sanders campaign was, above all other things, a test of a popular political theory that’s been banging around for a long time, really gaining traction with Thomas Frank’s 2004 bestseller “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” The idea behind this theory is that Republicans are only able to get to white working class and middle-class voters with racist and sexist appeals because the Democrats don’t counter with a strong message of economic justice. If Democrats embraced economic populism, offering things like single payer health care and free college that appealed to the self-interest of these voters, they could convince these voters to abandon their crusade to ban abortion and kick all the Mexicans out.

The answer is a resounding no. Sanders’ promise that his message of economic populism would awaken the masses turned out to be a giant whiff. He didn’t raise voter turnout or woo Republicans over. He didn’t even woo independents over. He couldn’t even get the majority of Democrats, even though they are the group most open to the idea of boldly remaking the economy into a more socialist state.

That’s why it’s important not to give up criticizing Sanders. His political theories were wrong. Instead, there’s significant supporting evidence for the competing theory, which was popularized by Barack Obama and embraced by Hillary Clinton, which is that the Democrats do better by focusing on core constituencies, like women and people of color, rather than continuing to chase the elusive white working class male vote.

That doesn’t mean giving up on economic justice, of course. Appealing to core constituencies is done best by meeting their economic needs. But it shows that hopes that a more populist-sounding appeal doesn’t actually do diddly squat to convince people who are voting their racist and sexist resentments to quit doing so.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. yes, calling HRC and US sore winners is a lie and a way to shut us up!
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Put us in our place. Make us be in a state of deference! Same way the juries system is being used here.

We know what's what!

Hi Cha! Have a great long weekend!

Next weekend we will be starting a new Chapter!!!!

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
8. I don't believe that
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:28 PM
May 2016

ANY male politician has ever been called a sore winner.

I see it as just another example of white male privilege.

Cha

(297,378 posts)
12. I see it as sour grapes from the incredilby sore LOSERS @ who finally admitting that
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:43 AM
May 2016

they're LOSERS.



BlueMT~

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
11. Using 'sore' winner is obnoxious, something Sanders fans excell at.
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016

As we all know, Hillary will be gracious to Sanders when she officially wins the nomination.

Cha

(297,378 posts)
13. Yes! What we have there are sour grapes from incredibly sore Losers who are finally admitting
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:46 AM
May 2016

they're Losers.



Sharon~

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