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Molly Brown BiographyActivist, Theater Actress, Philanthropist (18671932)
Philanthropist and activist Molly Brown was best known for her social welfare work on behalf of women, children and workers. She was also a survivor of the sinking of the 'Titanic.'
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Synopsis
Born in Missouri in 1867, Molly Brown was an American human-rights activist, philanthropist and actress who survived the sinking of the RMS Titanic. Brown and her husband moved to Denver, Colorado, after achieving great prosperity through the discovery of gold at one of his mines in 1893. While traveling in Europe, Brown got word that her grandson was ill, and subsequently booked a trip back to the United States on the RMS Titanic, famously surviving the ship's sinking. She later took up a number of activist causes, including women's suffrage and workers' rights, and also worked as an actress. She died on October 26, 1932 in New York City.
More: http://www.biography.com/people/molly-brown-20638583#synopsis
Marriage and Activism
Molly and J.J. Brown struggled financially in the early days of their marriage. They had their first child, Lawrence Palmer Brown, in 1887, and a daughter, Catherine Ellen, followed two years later. As her husband rose up the ranks at the mining company, Brown became active in the community, helping miners and their families and working to improve the town's schools. Molly Brown was never interested in fitting in with the other leading citizens of Leadville, preferring to dress in dramatic hats.
The Browns achieved great prosperity through the discovery of gold at Little Johnny Mine in 1893, with J.J. being given a subsequent partnership at the Ibex Mining Company. The family moved to Denver the following year, Colorado, where Molly helped found the Denver Women's Club. She also raised money for children's causes and continued to help mine workers. And in an unheard of feat for women at the time, Brown also ran for a Colorado state senate seat at the turn of the century, though she eventually withdrew from the race.
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More: http://www.biography.com/people/molly-brown-20638583#the-unsinkable-mrs-brown
'The Unsinkable Mrs. Brown'
The Titanic struck an iceberg on April 14, 1912, around 11:40 p.m., and sank in only a few hours. Brown was able to get on one of the ship's few lifeboats and was later rescued by the Carpathia. Aboard the Carpathia, a battered Brown did whatever she could to help the other survivors, including raising money from the more wealthy to help poor passengers. Her acts of heroism, which made news, earned her the nickname "the Unsinkable Mrs. Brown." (Both a fictionalized Broadway musical and movie adaptation inspired by Brown's life were released in the 1960s, with the latter starring Debbie Reynolds in an Oscar-nominated role.)
With her newfound fame after the disaster, Brown spoke out for many causes. She served as a mediator of sorts between striking Ludlow miners, who had been working under brutal conditions, and the interests of John D. Rockefeller Sr. and Jr. She also aligned herself with the women's suffrage movement, becoming allies with Alice Paul, and spoke about workers' rights at the 1914 Conference of Great Women.
Brown once again campaigned for a political seat, this time as a U.S. senator for Colorado, though she didn't win election. Upon the outbreak of World War I, she worked with the Red Cross, setting up facilities in Newport, Rhode Island seasonal home, and later traveled overseas to work with the American Committee for Devastated France.
More: http://www.biography.com/people/molly-brown-20638583#the-unsinkable-mrs-brown
Do we really need to tear down all women to build up one candidate?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,036 posts)Who was the idiot that mocked her?
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)If they're mocking her they don't.. but, when have they had a clue about anything?
Thank you for all the in depth detail about Molly.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)so it wouldn't surprise me. Molly Brown is a pretty silly way to mock someone, however, considering all that she accomplished.
I guess you could turn it around on them - if Hillary is Molly Brown, I guess that makes the Sanders camp...the Titanic?
Edit: or the iceberg.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)NBachers
(17,122 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)riversedge
(70,243 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Could you link to it?
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Do a site search with the word unsinkable.
caquillo
(521 posts)that was turned into a movie, starring Debbie Reynolds, which earned her an Oscar nomination (she lost to Julie Andrews in Mary Poppins).
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)It was a fav. Love her.
I posted a link on that other Op.
I'd skimmed what you wrote (I already know a lot about her) and neglected to see that you already included the info in the third to last paragraph. My bad.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Thanks for your response, caquillo.
Loved your clip.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)the intended reference is probably to that and not Molly Brown. The SS (which was RMS where Titanic was concerned) refers to a ship.
That doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Well, slightly so. More ridiculous is that a throwaway post got nearly 40 recs.
Bring on June 8th. Or 15th. Or whatever.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Posts shows references.
Even that aside. To make fun of those that died on that ship to make a political point is just sad.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)That's where the nickname came from.
"Brown was later called "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" by authors because she helped in the ship's evacuation, taking an oar herself in her lifeboat and urging that the lifeboat go back and save more people. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Brown#Passenger_on_the_Titanic
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Hence the nick name.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)Molly Brown was one of the first historical figures we learned about in elementary school. We went on field trips to the history museum that housed many artifacts related to Molly Brown. Her house in Denver still attracts tourists, my cousins were raised just a couple of blocks away and still live in the neighborhood. She was tough and determined, and deservedly became an icon for those who struggle to overcome difficulty.
Being compared to Molly Brown is a compliment for anyone, especially for someone like Hillary Clinton whose own "icebergs" tend to be manufactured by those determined to sink her. Yet she sails on in spite of them. Lesson learned.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Thanks
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)They lived in her neighborhood when she was a little girl. She was 8 when she got back from the Titanic. My great great grandfather helped finance her two campaigns and my great great grandmother was hip deep in the suffragist movement with her in Colorado. Something missed by many voting rights activists - women had the right to vote in Colorado in the 1890s.
We couldn't do any worse than men.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)What a great family history you have. You come from a strong lineage. It shows.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)In the movie 'Titanic'.
A small role, but a presence in the movie.
caquillo
(521 posts)... and Debbie Reynolds in "The Unsinkable Molly Brown"... and Cloris Leachman in "S.O.S. Titanic"... and Marilu Henner in the TV miniseries "Titanic" starring Catherine Zeta-Jones and Peter Gallagher...
Blanks
(4,835 posts)And obviously the James Cameron movie 'Titanic' was a big deal, but I hadn't even heard of the other ones.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)and purge begins.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)The Molly Brown House is a quite popular museum. Very cool.
Link: http://www.mollybrown.org