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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:39 AM May 2016

what it means to cinch the nomination


the conservative bastion ..DailyKos (tongue in cheek),,,,history shows us that once the magic number is obtained...game is over...only those in denial of history will argue the facts


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/29/1532358/-What-Does-It-Mean-to-Clinch-the-Nomination-When-Superdelegates-Are-Involved

After reading a number of impassioned defenses of why the Democratic presidential nomination should not be called next week on June 7th, I got curious. What’s the history here, since the superdelegates were added to the process? When a Democratic candidate hits the magic number of pledged delegates plus superdelegates, are they the nominee?

The answer: history says the first person to get to the magic number is the presumptive nominee, and says it unambiguously, even if the losers often disagree.

Here’s how it has gone since the superdelegates were added to the process.
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
1. "The answer: history says the first person to get to the magic number is the presumptive nominee,
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:11 AM
May 2016
and says it unambiguously, even if the losers often disagree."

snips from your link..

I'm crying now.. remembering it..

But when I watched this play out live back then, with its bizarre mix of the heartbreaking and the heartwarming, I cried. Like a baby. I think I could see the pain of watching the dream she had pursued for so long slip away. But on top of it is this pride in her party, which is less than 120 seconds away from voting in the first African-American candidate for the Presidency, with a good chance of taking back the White House.

Was it completely scripted? Yeah, the actions were. The feelings, however, were real. Mine, Clinton’s, the party’s. Chuckie Schumer’s. Everybody’s

In 2008, I was Anyone But Clinton, but in the end, it was she who taught me what it meant to be a Democrat.
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First, most non-incumbent candidates have needed superdelegates to win, and the history of superdelegates has been that once a Democrat hits the magic number and becomes the nominee, superdelegates are more likely to flow to the nominee than from them.

Mahalo, bob.. good find!


 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. yep...we have had many contested primaries over the years and the loser accept their loss
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:10 AM
May 2016

and did the class thing BEFORE the convention


but if we are dealing with a classless loser and hellbent followers....all they can do is subvert...and they may have been the overall goal of sanders from the start....


we have never had a female candidate fighting off 2 males and the media...and she is still going to come out on top....

Cha

(297,323 posts)
3. "we have never had a female candidate fighting off 2 males and the media...and she is still going
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:19 AM
May 2016

to come out on top...."

Totally.. that's what I've been saying.. except that we haven't had one before.. and you are exactly right.. it's taken Hillary to do this.

It was brilliant what keener said about.. "In 2008, I was Anyone But Clinton, but in the end, it was she who taught me what it meant to be a Democrat.."

IOW.. That our country and Planet are more important than our individual losses.. because that's what we're fighting for.

I hadn't thought of it in those terms but it's true.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. we progressives. liberals and democrats all understand that
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

this election becomes the most important election of this generation or 2.....the talk of "take my ball home" attitude really disrespects everyone who has fought and supported the long line of democratic policies and principles and accomplishments from civil rights to womens rights to environment to social security and dozens of others


sanders is fanning that flame of discontent every minute he chooses not to be a class act....

rock

(13,218 posts)
5. "... even if the losers often disagree"
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

I laughed when I read this. It really is often, though sometimes the opposition makes a classy response and concedes gracefully.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. all goes back to what kind of person you are...the most telling attribute for being classy
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

is handling adversity in a mature and gracious way....

the most glaring difference between hillary and bernie....she has class AND grace

bernie has shown little of each so far

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