Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumSanders hits low point--compares Hillary to Dick Cheney
Laura Meckler @laurameckler 18h18 hours ago
Sanders in Iowa: "No one can deny that Sec. Clinton has a lot of foreign policy experience.. Dick Cheney had a hell of a lot of experience."
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I preferred when the two candidates discussed actual positions and refrained from this type of Karl Rove tactic.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)some of the colorful characters he supported.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Clinton herself. so, will the media start doing the vetting??
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The GOP best road to victory. They will hold the Swift Boating until the nominee is determined. If some here thinks there have been attacks on Sanders, in fact they have not begun.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Hillary, on the other hand, can not win a national election for president. She will rile up the Republicans to come out and vote and at the rate she is going lying about Bernie and the cheating by the DNC, a large number of Democrats will simply stay home because they will realize that it is not their party any more. I may get in trouble for reporting this, but that is what I am hearing and did hear in 2008. Sorry.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He has never been vetted by the GOP or by the DNC, Hillary has been vetted by the GOP for many years.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)As for vetting: He has been consistent in his positions throughout his political life. He has been open about his son born out of wedlock, etc. They can lie but when the lies are revealed as such, as with Clinton's lies and misquotes of Bernie, it just reinforces that the opponents are not to be trusted.
This is a revolution. You are either for it or against it but it is not going away.
As for Hillary running on Obama's record: Not all of us are happy with that record: TPP, Monsanto, Goldman Sacks, etc. Obama promised that single payer would be on the table and then made sure that it never was. ACA is a Republican plan. Simply put, Hillary can not win the general election. There is too much baggage and people do not trust her.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Lage Nom Ai
13. Actual Quote
"I think on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that Secretary Clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and I was right," Sanders said, according to the Washington Post. "Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."
I don't think he was making a comparison as much as making an example of peoples judgment.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)endorsed Hillary and then he says they are a part of the establishment.
On the foreign policy, Sanders has yet to show he is ready on this issue.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)had McCain beating Obama by up to 12 points!
So using those polls is actually not gonna help!
Cha
(297,655 posts)well too bad
Hillary's going to be the next POTUS
Cha
(297,655 posts)you're trying to push.
You only look desperate and make sanders look desperate too.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)The internal polling in this campaign must be terrible for him to go so negative. It isn't just this tweet, there's also his comments on PP and HRC. Something most be terribly wrong on Bernieland that's bringing out so much negativity.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)I'm starting to wonder if he does get the nomination, favorite deity forbid, if he wants the backing of Hillary supporters.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:59 PM - Edit history (1)
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)And, as his remark comparing Hillary Clinton to Darth Cheney shows, he's lying on all levels. He's just scared that Hillary Clinton - known for hitting her opponents 18x harder back - will turn her wrath on him and actually expose his legislative record for all the world to see since it's clear in-the-tank-for-the-GOP U.S. media, collectively, aren't doing their job vetting the man.
Treant
(1,968 posts)I'll vote for him, I guess, but it's going to be grudging at best.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)having to cast my vote for him. And that's a huge weight off my chest!
kjones
(1,053 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Gothmog
(145,554 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)"Putin can have his way with me"
Lage Nom Ai
(74 posts)"I think on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that Secretary Clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and I was right," Sanders said, according to the Washington Post. "Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."
I don't think he was making a comparison as much as making an example of peoples judgment.
Treant
(1,968 posts)Hillary Clinton = experience = Dick Cheney
Bernie's great at taking semi-deniable sideswipes at people would be the takeaway here.
What we can also extract from it is:
Bernie Sanders = inexperience = Dunning-Kruger Effect
Lage Nom Ai
(74 posts)Good for you. So you think attacking the possible Democratic candidate is smart? And that somehow comparing him to McArthur Wheeler shows your political skills? I think you may have problems with recognizing someone else genuine skill as a leader with good judgment. No need to respond.
Treant
(1,968 posts)He's a terrible leader with provably abysmal management skills who hires dishonest tech workers who steal other people's data. His keynote healthcare legislature failed--without a single co-sponsor--which should tell you how wonderful his leadership really is.
He's not a Democrat. He's a carpetbagger in the party who's spent decades making coin off screaming about Democrats and how wrong they are. But now he wants our blessing to be the candidate for President? No thank you, slink back to Vermont.
As far as attack? Please. Check General Discussion regarding Mrs. Clinton, I'd suggest your efforts are better spent there.
Welcome to the Hillary Clinton group, I'm sure you're really going to brighten our day and bring clouds of butterflies in with your positive energy.
He is more democrat than your candidate. As for carpet bagger you may want to check her background. Lastly no data was stolen, but hey his techs are much better than the contractors working for the DNC and Hillary's own personal tech. That would be that judgment thing again.
Please take care of this person who can't figure out this is the Hillary group. Thanks!
I wasn't sure how to alert on here without invoking a jury.
Cha
(297,655 posts)eye out.
But, you can PM me if this kind of intrusion into our Group should happen again.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Hillary.
No, berni is not more of a dem.. all berni does is slam the dems.
Hillary is much more liberal than sanders.. thank Goodness!
Cha
(297,655 posts)supporters that question.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)"So you think attacking the possible Democratic candidate is smart"
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Judgement, indeed.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Lage Nom Ai (15 posts)
13. Actual Quote
"I think on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that Secretary Clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and I was right," Sanders said, according to the Washington Post. "Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."
I don't think he was making a comparison as much as making an example of peoples judgment.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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emsimon33
(3,128 posts)and both ARE hawks.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)And, he's desperate when he says HRC and PP are #establishment.
Too bad PP and HRC and all the other "Establishment" Unions endorsed Hillary.. they did it because they're smart and they know she is the best candidate by far to be POTUS.
mcar
(42,372 posts)Because, that's why.
Seriously,
Hekate
(90,793 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)dick cheney to compare your lack of FP?
How would you like those apples, ber-nie?
He wouldn't.. but that doesn't stop him from dragging out the biggest insult he can muster.. he's just hurting himself, again.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)deathrind
(1,786 posts)They both have a lot of foreign policy experience. They both made serious errors in foreign policy decisions...even with all that experience. So the point is right on target.
Cha
(297,655 posts)absolutely nothing about the Presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton.
Just says berni is desperate.
livetohike
(22,163 posts)try to make it a liability. When are his supporters going to realize Sanders is a career politician like any other? It's been his life. What did he do prior to becoming mayor of Burlington? I know he ran for office since the early 70's. He is establishment.