Clinton Camp Calls on Sanders to Agree to Unsanctioned Debate

[displacedtexan]

A spokesman for Hillary Clinton, Brian Fallon, on Wednesday criticized Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) as the only "holdout" who will not participate in an unsanctioned debate to be hosted by MSNBC and the New Hampshire Union-Leader in February.

"The Sanders campaign is the one hold out. We think they should join us in saying they will be in New Hampshire next week," Fallon said on CNN.

Sanders' campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said on Tuesday that the Vermont senator would not attend a debate not sanctioned by the DNC due to concern that his participation would keep him from attending future official debates.

Clinton's campaign said she would "participate in a debate in New Hampshire if the other candidates agree, which would allow the DNC to sanction the debate." And former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said he would attend the unsanctioned debate.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/brian-fallon-sanders-holdout-unsanctioned-debate

Sorry about the link. I hate my ipad!

[wysi]

1. So he wants more debates...

... but he doesn't want more debates? Good job Mr Consistent!

[displacedtexan]

3. I've worked on lots of campaigns, and the word "debate" always generates headlines.

Those who are bad at debating never want more debates, but they don't want to be accused of dodging said debates. They always try to come up with a reason to decline invitations to more debates, in order to avoid being called debate dodgers. Both Trump and Sanders are now those debate dodgers.

The media always carries stories about debates, and you don't ever want to be the candidate who appears too cowardly to debate your opponents any time and any place. Good debate press is always available to those candidates who know how to get it.

And this phenomenon is centuries old. Can you imagine the furor if either Lincoln or Douglas had not been willing to face the other in a debate?

[Rose Siding]

33. I think she's just messing with his head now

It is the kind of thing that simmers in the media and they'll ask him about it.

[NurseJackie]

2. In my opinion he doesn't do very well in the debates.

The cheers from his supporters seem to contradict that, but the cheers seem to be perfunctory, nervous, and obligatory over-compensation.

And if I recall correctly, it seems that Bernie's poll numbers always take a dip after each debate. If that's accurate, then it certainly makes sense why Bernie would want to avoid them. The moderator might want to talk about something other than economic issues.

[jmowreader]

8. Bernie's supporters see everything he does as the greatest thing in history

If Bernie decided to fry and eat a puppy on national television, they would cheer on the precise blend of spices he chose. Rave about the crisp crackle of the oil he fried it in. Marvel at his beautiful dentition as his teeth cleanly sliced through the tender meat. Then claim that if Hillary were to eat a puppy on national television she'd only be slavishly copying Bernie's bold lead.

The rest of us, naturally, would be shaking these fools by the shoulders and screaming, "DUDE! He ATE A FUCKING PUPPY ON TELEVISION! And you're cheering him on! What the hell is wrong with him? What the fuck is wrong with YOU?"

(Full disclosure: Senator Sanders, so far as I know, is not planning to eat a puppy on national television. However, I wouldn't put it past Trump.)

[NurseJackie]

12. Ha!! :-D

[Treant]

4. I'm not sure

I like the idea of unsanctioned debates in the first place, but if Sanders' agreement would allow the DNC to sanction it...well, I guess so.

But why don't they just sanction it right here and now? Then Sanders can join without any issues, and we all know he simply doesn't debate well.

[Akicita]

5. What a crock.

The debate rules are set up to benefit Hillary. But that backfired for her so now that she is in trouble she expects Bernie to break the rules to accommodate her. Bernie needs to stick to his guns and refuse to break the DNC rules for Hillary's sake. If Hillary participates in the unsanctioned debate anyway, Bernie should demand she be banned from any more DNC sanctioned debates as the rules state and DWS has threatened earlier before Bernie's surge.

[wysi]

6. This is the Hillary Clinton group...

Please take that rubbish elsewhere, as per the Terms of Service.

[rickford66]

30. Yoiu mean I can't crticize Hillary?

I want Bernie to win, but I'll vote for Hill if she prevails. My problem is she's a corporate lapdog and would be the lesser of two evils. I realize she has experience but I can't believe she would change the political environment. I voted for Bill in 92 primarily for their commitment to single payer health care, but they blew it and caved. I voted for him in 96 as the lesser of two evils. I'm tired of having to do that. Bernie is exciting us because he makes sense.

[Rose Siding]

31. Yeah, no not in here you can't

The inaccurate "lapdog" smear is enough of a hint

So nutty that not a single Bernie guy can explain how the hell he'd flip over 2 dozen solid red congressional districts -minimum!- it would take to embrace a ground up overhaul for Bernie's plans. And I guess Pelosi would need to be primaried now too, considering her remarks today. LOL good luck with THAT.

[rickford66]

34. So we settle for the slide to the right.

Lapdog isn't a smear when you realize all the money donated or "earned" from speaking fees by stroking the corporate 1%. What she has going for her compared to the GOP candidates, is she isn't evil. I believe she really would like to improve the lives of everyone and she has done a lot, but she is still beholden to the big money. She's stuck in the position of being a moderate Republican. I want a real Democrat. Remember the Truman quote .... "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." The politicians are right of center while the nation as a whole is left of center.

[wysi]

36. Not that it's going to be an issue...

But this is a protected group according to the DU TOS. Preach to the choir instead, because we're not buying that crap.

[rickford66]

37. So I can only say nice things about her?

Preach to what choir? Sounds like this group is the choir.

[wysi]

38. We're all singing for..

... the next President, Hillary Clinton. Your guy is going nowhere except back to the Senate to be ineffectual some more.

[Cha]

46. Take it up with Skinner if you don't like the rules. I wouldn't go into the sanders group and

start in on what I think of berni. I respect the boundaries.

We've had more blocks in our Group because there's too many disruptors who have no respect.. and they get shown the door, asap.

[BlueCaliDem]

41. Dude! This is the Hillary Clinton Group. Go trash her elsewhere. Plenty of places on this site to do

it.

Now move on already. Sheesh.

[Cha]

45. He's moved on.

BlueCali~

[Cha]

44. "lapdog" is an ignorant smear.. you are woefully uninformed.

[Cha]

39. Yeah, you do have problem since it isn't true... A big problem.

[displacedtexan]

7. Evidence?

I had no idea that the debate rules were "set up to benefit Hillary." We didn't discuss this at our last One World Domination Cabal retreat.

[wysi]

9. The hors d'oeuvres were great at that meeting though, weren't they?

I could have skipped the lobster and caviar dinner I was so full.

[Treant]

10. You too?

My check from The Establishment was right on time, too!

/s

[Hekate]

13. The California wines were to die for, I must say. They complemented every course.

But my check is still in the mail.

[NurseJackie]

15. I kept the souvenir champagne flutes (the one's from Angie's List).

[NastyRiffraff]

23. Oh man, that retreat was the bomb!

Lots of hot guys there, too! I don't remember that about the debate rules, either. I did get a bit sloshed, though, so I guess I could have missed it.

[NurseJackie]

14. Ummm ... scroll up and you'll see:

DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Hillary Clinton (Group) »

After you're (likely) banned from this group, you won't have to worry about "accidentally" posting here any more.

[Akicita]

16. Didn't notice that. I clicked on the thread under Politics on the Home Page.

I'll look for that in the future.

[NurseJackie]

17. Yeah... it happened to me. It's easy to overlook when you come in to a thread from the Home Page.

[Akicita]

18. Thanks for your understanding.

[William769]

20. You won't have to worry about it anymore.

[Cha]

21. Hillary has won every single debate and the Dem Town Hall and she wants to give bernie a chance

to debate more.. like his fans were screaming for months.

You can't have it both ways.

You should implore BS to agree to debate.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. Go on Linda Blair!

Spin that head, girl!

[yallerdawg]

11. Let's not forget DNC data breaches and "The Sander's Surge."

Oh wait - "we" did.

[William769]

19. He's lost the last 4 debates. He just can't debate against Hillary and he know's it. nt

[BlueCaliDem]

42. To be honest, I don't believe anyone can beat her in a debate. She's a phenomenal debater!

I was pleasantly surprised at her grasp of details and knowledge, and sticking to political realities by not overpromising. She avoids treading on rainbow-farting unicorn terrain, and I really appreciate that in her.

She'll make an incredible president!

[72DejaVu]

22. Bernie changes his story again

Told Lester Holt that he would participate in the NH debate if it's part of a larger expansion of the debate schedule.

Tomorrow, of course, his position will change again.

[displacedtexan]

24. Bernie doesn't want to be "that guy" who's the only one to decline the debate opportunity.

That would make him like Trump.

Who are BS's advisors? They're not doing him any good. Especially this week. The photos with the angry scowl, while wagging his finger at whoever he's talking to, make him look like McCain and those "Get off my lawn" captions.

[72DejaVu]

25. That "like Trump" ship already sailed.

[displacedtexan]

27. Both have said no to a debate. That ship is still in the harbor.

And if someone else noted the similarity, so what? Your reply doesn't make sense to me because I don't patrol individual replies to other threads outside this group. Did you come here to insult us?

[72DejaVu]

28. If "us" means you and Bernie, I suppose so

If not, then I think you've misunderstood me.

[displacedtexan]

29. I must've misunderstood you because "you and Bernie" makes no sense to me.

Bernie Sanders is a party funds moocher, who has no business sporting a D after his name.

The "that ship has sailed" sounded like it was meant as an insult. If not, sorry I misunderstood you.

[72DejaVu]

32. Fair 'nuff

By "that ship has sailed" I was saying that Bernie has already shown himself to be like Trump. Sorry that I wasn't clearer.

[synergie]

26. If only we could harness all this spin, in every direction, we'd be energy

independent in no time! There is so very much of it, and all of it is passionate and full throttle no matter how often it changes directions, or how quickly!

[trueblue2007]

40. Bernie is scared. of a girl.

[BlueCaliDem]

43. Heh...

[murielm99]

47. So is Trump.

Two extremist candidates, both scared of girls.