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Republican Map Shrinking As Hillary Clinton Puts Red State Arizona In Play (Original Post) leftofcool May 2015 OP
Good. I don't think anyond else on our side could put AZ in play. hrmjustin May 2015 #1
I don't think so either. leftofcool May 2015 #2
I think America is reary for Hillary. hrmjustin May 2015 #3
Clinton was competitive, with her range varying elleng May 2015 #4
You are right, it was Walker that beat her not Jeb. leftofcool May 2015 #5
I just can't believe that Walker will play well over the long haul. DURHAM D May 2015 #6
Dumb is a plus to anti-intellectuals. Qutzupalotl May 2015 #11
"Big money" still says it will be Clinton/Bush. yallerdawg May 2015 #7
I think Texas will be in play Iliyah May 2015 #26
Good news. I hope it holds. sufrommich May 2015 #8
Strategy is to take red states as Obama did in 2008? What a wonderful thought! n/t freshwest May 2015 #9
It is a Wonderful thought, fresh! Cha May 2015 #14
Same to you, Cha! freshwest May 2015 #15
Aw.. that's so Pretty! Cha May 2015 #16
50 states! Iliyah May 2015 #28
More good news for Hillary workinclasszero May 2015 #10
That is great Gothmog May 2015 #12
The only areas of Texss I can see holding out okasha May 2015 #13
If Texas is in play, the GOP candidate has no chance Gothmog May 2015 #18
No.. Way. At. All. okasha May 2015 #19
Hillary is very popular in Texas Gothmog May 2015 #21
She's especiallu popular with Hispanics, okasha May 2015 #22
I can confirm that based on 2008 Gothmog May 2015 #23
Those I know in Texas accept HRC over any other, too. freshwest May 2015 #34
Yep. Repubs are going to have to expend money and resources to hold what should be safe Red states. stevenleser May 2015 #17
The map for Hillary and the map for Sanders okasha May 2015 #20
GOPers got over 1 billion ready to go Iliyah May 2015 #29
There are many in Arizona ready to vote blue dbackjon May 2015 #24
I heard he is worse than the one before him. hrmjustin May 2015 #25
For education, yes dbackjon May 2015 #33
goodgoodgood samsingh May 2015 #27
This will make for some interesting times for me ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #30
Stay positive with (+) threads Iliyah May 2015 #31
K&R! Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #32

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. I don't think so either.
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:00 PM
May 2015

The only GOP hopeful she does not beat is Jebbie and she trails him by only 1 point.

elleng

(130,956 posts)
4. Clinton was competitive, with her range varying
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:02 PM
May 2015

from a 3-point lead (44-41) over Texas Governor Rick Perry to a 7-point deficit against New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (46-39).

Given Chris Christie’s poor showing in other recent polls conducted in other states, he seems unlikely to secure the GOP nomination. Clinton is evenly matched against the two most likely Republican candidates, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. Clinton trailed Walker in the poll 44-43. She managed a 41-41 tie against Jeb Bush.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
6. I just can't believe that Walker will play well over the long haul.
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:17 PM
May 2015

The more he yaps the dumber he seems.

Qutzupalotl

(14,313 posts)
11. Dumb is a plus to anti-intellectuals.
Sun May 10, 2015, 02:13 AM
May 2015

They thought of W as "one of us," despite his ivy-league silver-spoon upbringing.

I think it will be Walker, so we need a candidate or message to draw a clear contrast. There is a lot of anti-union sentiment out there, which Walker will tap into; so we need a strong pro-union voice. We need to make it cool to be in a union again.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. "Big money" still says it will be Clinton/Bush.
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:20 PM
May 2015

Free speech marches on!

These are the rules of the game - Hillary has to be elected to change the rules! And she said she would work to change the rules.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
16. Aw.. that's so Pretty!
Mon May 11, 2015, 03:47 AM
May 2015

My son came over with his new wife whom I hadn't met in person before.

It was surreally happy!

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
12. That is great
Sun May 10, 2015, 12:24 PM
May 2015

I imagine that a number of states may be in play. My dream is to see Texas in play. There is a 2013 poll that show that Texas could be in play for Hillary http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/01/clinton-could-win-texas.html

PPP's newest Texas poll finds that, at least for now, Hillary Clinton could win the state in 2016. This follows on the heels of a survey last month where we found she would have a decent chance of winning Kentucky if she makes another White House bid.

50% of Texas voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton to 43% with a negative one. She's universally well liked by Democrats (91/5) and a majority of independents view her positively as well (52/41). She holds narrow leads in hypothetical match ups with Marco Rubio (46/45) and Chris Christie (45/43) and a wider one in a contest against Rick Perry (50/42).

Speaking of Perry, Republicans in Texas have no interest in seeing him run for President again in 2016. Only 19% think he should make a bid to 70% who think he should not, and he ties for 7th in a 9 candidate field that we tested. Leading the way is Marco Rubio at 21%, followed by Mike Huckabee at 14%, Rand Paul at 13%, Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan at 11%, Chris Christie at 9%, Perry and Bobby Jindal at 4%, and Susana Martinez at 2%.

If Julian Castro is the VP candidate on a Clinton/Castro ticket, Texas might be closer or turn purple

okasha

(11,573 posts)
13. The only areas of Texss I can see holding out
Sun May 10, 2015, 02:17 PM
May 2015

are DFW and the Panhandle. With Castro on the ticket, she'll lock the state down hard.

Otherwise, I haven't had enough caffeine to process the idea that AZ may be going sane. At least a little.

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
18. If Texas is in play, the GOP candidate has no chance
Mon May 11, 2015, 05:44 PM
May 2015

There is no way for a GOP candidate to get to 270 votes without Texas

okasha

(11,573 posts)
19. No.. Way. At. All.
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:05 PM
May 2015

But Texas' being in play is absolutely dependent on Hillary's being our candidate.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
22. She's especiallu popular with Hispanics,
Mon May 11, 2015, 08:12 PM
May 2015

and Hispanic women in particular. My county sent a 100% Hillary delegation to state, and will again.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
34. Those I know in Texas accept HRC over any other, too.
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:54 PM
May 2015

Most are Catholics. But her support for abortion and same sex marriage which goes against their church teachings mean nothing to them in the voting booth.

They believe she is for the bigger picture in their lives and I have found the same from secularist and atheist, Jewish, Protestant and Catholics here where I live now. They have been wanting her to run since last year and tell me without being asked.

I was not surprised at her high level of support from public worker union members, as she supports their calling

There was less support for PBO in those women in Texas, but they felt HRC is a stronger leader. Whether that is a racial divide, I don't know. I can't think of any president who has fought off so many attempts to destroy this country as he has.

I think it's about different matters to different people, but I have a hard time getting real policy positions to argue for HRC. By that I mean current ones, as her language is too nuanced to fit in a sound bite.

Obama has had the same issue, he talks like a professor and he is constantly having to restrict his words to fit all the people. It makes him seem weak to some who go for the 'strong man' like Bush kind of leadership, but they will try to make the same case about Hillary. The record says otherwise, though. Both are very approachable people in the right mileau.

But there are some who just can't take a woman seriously, period. And their words speak volumes about themselves when they go off on her imagined sins.

But the enthusiasm for her has came from unexpected quarters in my life. From people who have mainly eschewed all things political. They have called all politicians crooks, but they don't see that in HRC.

I'm not sure what we would call this group of people, but they'll vote for HRC.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Yep. Repubs are going to have to expend money and resources to hold what should be safe Red states.
Mon May 11, 2015, 04:14 PM
May 2015

Money and resources that they desperately need to go to Ohio and Florida.

Ohio and Florida become safe blue states under Hillary and the battleground states become the Carolinas, Arizona, Virginia, Indiana and Arkansas.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
20. The map for Hillary and the map for Sanders
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:11 PM
May 2015

are very, very different. With Bernie, Texas stays red.

I'm a socialist. Would I love to have a socialist President? Absolutely.

Do I want Republicans to hold all three branches of government for the foreseeable future? No effing way.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
24. There are many in Arizona ready to vote blue
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:13 PM
May 2015

The mess that Ducey is dropping on the state only helps.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
33. For education, yes
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:12 PM
May 2015

Wants to privatize everything.



He is a businessman, so he wants to avoid the Religious Freedom BS. He actually did veto a bill that would allow counties to refuse to help with adoptions, and reversed an order banning gay foster parents.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
30. This will make for some interesting times for me ...
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

I'm planning a business, that won't approach making me rich, but will do a lot of public good.

If HRC is the nominee and AZ is in play, she'll be spending a lot of time here. And, will (hopefully) reach out to my company!

I'll get you the pictures.

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